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    The Capitalism Debate






    July 16, 2012
    The Capitalism Debate

    By DAVID BROOKS

    Let’s say you are president in a time of a sustained economic slowdown. You initiated a series of big policies that you thought were going to turn the economy around, but they didn’t work — either because they were insufficient or ineffective. How do you run for re-election under these circumstances?

    Do you spend the entire campaign saying that things would have been even worse if you hadn’t acted the way you did? No. That would be pathetic. You go on the attack. Instead of defending your economic policies, you attack modern capitalism as it now exists. You blame the system for the economy. You do this with double ferocity if your opponent happens to be the embodiment of that system.

    This is what the Obama campaign appears to have done in recent months. Instead of defending the policies of the last four years, the campaign has begun a series of attacks on the things people don’t like about modern capitalism.

    They don’t like the way unsuccessful firms go bust. Obama hit that with ads about a steel plant closure a few months ago. They don’t like C.E.O. salaries. President Obama hits that regularly. They don’t like financial shenanigans. Obama hits that. They don’t like outsourcing and offshoring. This week, Obama has been hitting that.

    The president is now running an ad showing Mitt Romney tunelessly singing “America the Beautiful,” while the text on screen blasts him for shipping jobs to China, India and Mexico.

    The accuracy of the ad has been questioned by the various fact-checking outfits. That need not detain us. It’s safest to assume that all the ads you see this year will be at least somewhat inaccurate because the ad-makers now take dishonesty as a mark of their professional toughness.

    What matters is the ideology behind the ad: the assumption that Bain Capital, the private-equity firm founded by Romney, should not have invested in companies that hired workers abroad; the assumption that hiring Mexican or Indian workers is unpatriotic; the assumption that no worthy person would do what most global business leaders have been doing for the past half-century.

    This ad — and the rhetoric the campaign is using around it — challenges the entire logic of capitalism as it has existed over several decades. It’s part of a comprehensive attack on the economic system Romney personifies.

    This shift of focus has been audacious. Over the years of his presidency, Obama has not been a critic of globalization. There’s no real evidence that, when he’s off the campaign trail, he has any problem with outsourcing and offshoring. He has lavishly praised people like Steve Jobs who were prominent practitioners. He has hired people like Jeffrey Immelt, the chief executive of General Electric, whose company embodies the upsides of globalization. His economic advisers have generally touted the benefits of globalization even as they worked to help those who are hurt by its downsides.

    But, politically, this aggressivetactic has worked. It has shifted the focus of the race from being about big government, which Obama represents, to being about capitalism, which Romney represents.

    Just as Republicans spent years promising voters that they could have tax cuts forever, now the Democrats are promising voters that they can have all the benefits of capitalism without the downsides, like plant closures, rich C.E.O.’s and outsourcing. Just as Republicans used to force Democrats into the eat-your-spinach posture (you need to have high taxes if you want your programs), now Democrats are casting Republicans into the eat-your-spinach posture (you need to accept outsourcing and the pains of creative destruction if you want your prosperity).

    The Romney campaign doesn’t seem to know how to respond. For centuries, business leaders have been inept when writers, intellectuals and politicians attacked capitalism, and, so far, the Romney campaign is continuing that streak.

    One thing is for sure. As Arthur Brooks of the American Enterprise Institute has said again and again, it’s not enough to say that capitalism will make you money. You can’t fight what is essentially a moral critique with economics.

    Romney is going to have to define a vision of modern capitalism. He’s going to have to separate his vision from the scandals and excesses we’ve seen over the last few years. He needs to define the kind of capitalist he is and why the country needs his virtues.

    Let’s face it, he’s not a heroic entrepreneur. He’s an efficiency expert. It has been the business of his life to take companies that were mediocre and sclerotic and try to make them efficient and dynamic. It has been his job to be the corporate version of a personal trainer: take people who are puffy and self-indulgent and whip them into shape.

    That’s his selling point: rigor and productivity. If he can build a capitalist vision around that, he’ll thrive. If not, he’s a punching bag.



    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/op...sm-please.html

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    • Winning Progressive
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    Mr. Brooks, you swing and miss again. President Obama and his allies are not attacking capitalism itself - they are attacking the corrupted form of vulture capitalism that Romney represents. It is that unfettered capitalism, which has been aided and abetted by 30 years of conservative economic and tax policies, that has undermined our middle class, corrupted our democracy, and is ultimately weakening our capitalist economy itself.

    Progressives believe that capitalism is the best engine for economic growth and innovation that exists. But we also realize that capitalism only thrives and benefits society if it exists within a series of rules and if there are structures in place to ensure that we all share in the wealth that is produced. Without such rules, capitalism devolves into a boom-and-bust cycle that better resembles a casino than a functioning economy. And without ensuring that everyone benefits, we end up with growing inequality that undermines economic growth.

    Romney, with his destruction of middle class jobs and security at Bain Capital, his offshore tax havens, and his policies that would accelerate rather than shrink economic inequality, represents everything that has gone wrong with capitalism and government policy over the past 30 years. Attacking those problems, however, is an effort to save capitalism from folks like Romney, just as FDR did in the 1930s.

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    Welfare state capitalism defeated communism.

    • Matthew Carnicelli
    • Brooklyn, New York
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    David, this election shouldn't be so much about capitalism vs.government as it should be about the kind of capitalism that the world needs in the 21st century.

    Welfare state capitalism defeated communism. But now that the enemy has been vanquished, conservative ideologues are intent on dismantling the welfare state itself. Yet I argue that the welfare state is as necessary today as it has ever been. Why, you may ask?

    Because globalism brings out the worst in businessmen. Globalism gives them the opportunity to ruthlessly depress wages and employment in industrialized nations. And yet these businessmen also insist on low rates of taxation, which are only possible if you dismantle the welfare state.

    I put it to you, David: If corporate executives see little need to pay their countrymen a living wage, keep economy sustaining jobs in America and other industrialized nations, or pay a level of taxation sufficient to support a 21st century welfare state, then how exactly do they expect the vast majority of us to even eat? Should we eat cake?

    You regularly laud the virtues of "creative destruction" in your columns. But I focus more in my studies on that other form of "creative destruction", the kind that nation states experience when a people have begun to lose hope.

    Let me suggest that America and much of the advanced industrialized world is on the verge of losing hope - and what the planet needs today isn't a return to Ayn Rand, but a "capitalism with a human face".




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    The problem with all of these guys is that they ain't materialists.

    'Capitalism that serves society', 'capitalism with a human face', what silly people, one just as well might raise tigers on tofu. The requirements of the mode of production must necessarily condition all other aspects of society as that production is the physical basis of society. In fact, Brooks is the most honest of the bunch as he will happily inflict misery upon people for the proper functioning of said mode of production. The progressives put the cart before the horse and wonder why they can't get anywhere.
    Social relationships have their inherent logic; as long as people live in given mutual relationships they will feel, think and act in a given way, and no other. Attempts on the part of public men to combat this logic also would be fruitless; the natural course of things (this logic of social relationships) would reduce all his effort to nought. But if I know in what direction social relations are changing owing to given changes in the social-economic process of production, I also know in what direction social mentality is changing; consequently, I am able to influence it. Influencing social mentality means influencing historical events. Hence, in a certain sense, I can make history, and there is no need for me to wait while "it is being made."

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    The progressives put the cart before the horse and wonder why they can't get anywhere.
    I think it is the unicorn they put the cart in front of. I can't tell you how many times over the past couple of years I have heard the statement: "Capitalism is the best engine for economic growth and innovation that exists." And, "Capitalism is the best system for ensuring prosperity for everyone." (I heard this one just yesterday.)

    Folks who say things like this are useless, dead space, a waste of oxygen. They are benefiting from capitalism (or believe that they are) and everyone else must be, too - or else those others are doing something wrong. Labor camps might be the answer, but I am not sure. The one thing that absolutely astonishes these progressives is when you tell them (as I did yesterday) that they are not the target group for socialist activity. We won't start with the house slaves, we actually don't have much use for them, but they will switch sides when they discern what is best for themselves (their only true concern)...
    "The present status of society is but the result of the struggle of humankind during this and preceding periods - yes, struggle! "You cannot reform society by the sprinkling of rose oil" said Mirabeau, and history proves the correctness of this statement. In no age did the rulers and despoilers of our race relinquish their hold upon the throat of their victims, unless forced to - by logic and argument? No...Blood, the precious sap was ever the price of liberty." August Spies, 1886

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