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    Will The Real Communist Party Please Stand Up?

    As the CPUSA slides off into ideological, philosophical and political obscurity and isolation, we in Houston have been privileged to witness the party in action, no pun intended. CPUSA leadership has received sharp criticism from Houston as well as around the country and across the globe. There has been no detectable response from leadership to the sharp criticism. However, there has been a recent flurry of self-destructive activity rather than any kind of logical, reasonable advocacy of their untenable positions or any attempts to engage in fair and open dialogue and debate.


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    Although the party leadership has proposed the abandonment of basic party concepts such as the vanguard role of the party, class struggle, Leninism, democratic centralism and seeks to censor any discussion of party policy, a few individuals can always be enlisted in an attempt to undermine a truly working class organization. Indeed, people like me who disagree with the policy of supporting uncritically the imperialist Obama administration are quickly dropped from party membership without regard to the constitutional process.

    This says nothing about the destruction of the party press and publications and the failure to fight against anti-Communist laws across the country. This says nothing about the delivery of important party documents and artifacts to a bourgeois university for safekeeping. This says nothing about the failure of the party to run candidates for public office since the 1980s. This says nothing about the proposal of party leadership to drop the words “Communist” and “party.” This says nothing about the four international Communist Parties (Greece, Mexico, Canada and Germany) who have sharply, publicly and openly criticized the political line of the CPUSA.

    The Houston Communist Party has been attacked from the left by anarchists and Trotskyites who have sought to demoralize us. We have been attacked by CPUSA national leadership. We have been attacked by right wing ideologues such as Glenn Beck.

    We view these attacks as confirmation that we are headed in the right direction.

    We are here to stay. We are growing. We will not back down. We will continue to stand up for the working class because we are of, by and for the working class. It is clear which side our attackers and detractors are on. It is clear which side we are on. Our interests and the interests of the CPUSA leadership are irreconcilable.
    Now this is what I'm talkin' about! Can a hillbilly from Alabama join the "real" Houston Communists?

    Edit to add: Dustin' your broom was never so sweet...
    "The present status of society is but the result of the struggle of humankind during this and preceding periods - yes, struggle! "You cannot reform society by the sprinkling of rose oil" said Mirabeau, and history proves the correctness of this statement. In no age did the rulers and despoilers of our race relinquish their hold upon the throat of their victims, unless forced to - by logic and argument? No...Blood, the precious sap was ever the price of liberty." August Spies, 1886

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalgren View Post
    Now this is what I'm talkin' about! Can a hillbilly from Alabama join the "real" Houston Communists?

    Edit to add: Dustin' your broom was never so sweet...
    But we gotta ask, how does this advance the worker's cause? It is good to be right, but the leadership of the national party is necessary, as long as this treacherous gang of opportunists are in charge the worker's struggle is in limbo. We cannot engage in entryism, a recent example shows the futility of that, criticism has no effect on these shameless people. Waiting on external events, the helplessness is maddening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindpig View Post
    But we gotta ask, how does this advance the worker's cause? It is good to be right, but the leadership of the national party is necessary, as long as this treacherous gang of opportunists are in charge the worker's struggle is in limbo. We cannot engage in entryism, a recent example shows the futility of that, criticism has no effect on these shameless people. Waiting on external events, the helplessness is maddening.
    Yeah. It is driving me crazy. Anax is such a fucking rock, I do not know how he does it - maintaining his equilibrium and his positivity (I lose both every morning between the door and my car).
    I was trying to find a way to support the Greek steel workers in their heroic strike that is ongoing. Greek workers from all over that poor, beset country are sending money and food to the strikers and I can't do anything. I will send a check to you for The Bell...at least that is something...
    "The present status of society is but the result of the struggle of humankind during this and preceding periods - yes, struggle! "You cannot reform society by the sprinkling of rose oil" said Mirabeau, and history proves the correctness of this statement. In no age did the rulers and despoilers of our race relinquish their hold upon the throat of their victims, unless forced to - by logic and argument? No...Blood, the precious sap was ever the price of liberty." August Spies, 1886

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    Damn, an e-purge...

    Maybe Webb can commision an iphone app. People can pick "like" and "dislike", and when the proportion of "dislikes" get large enough, "boom". In the interest of democracy, Sparticists should be allowed to vote... and all Democratic Party operatives.

    In place of excommunication, "de-friending".

    Seems modern...

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    Seems modern...
    Almost, "Fresh, Daily"...
    "The present status of society is but the result of the struggle of humankind during this and preceding periods - yes, struggle! "You cannot reform society by the sprinkling of rose oil" said Mirabeau, and history proves the correctness of this statement. In no age did the rulers and despoilers of our race relinquish their hold upon the throat of their victims, unless forced to - by logic and argument? No...Blood, the precious sap was ever the price of liberty." August Spies, 1886

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    "The medium is the message."

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    I've been following this and I'd like to know more about it.
    From the Houston site:

    http://houstoncommunistparty.com/

    Letter to the editor from North Carolina about expulsion of party members
    worker | July 13, 2012 | 7:22 am | Action | No comments

    I of course sympathize with the people who were expelled. But the question for me is, what can be done now? Do you plan to appeal inside the Party? Do you plan to form a new party? Do you plan to join CCDS? Are you still making up your mind?
    An admin response to a similar question:

    http://houstoncommunistparty.com/wil...d-up/#comments

    worker
    July 13, 2012 at 8:46 am

    Some background information:
    Our orginal club did not ask for or even want a split. This was provoked by the national leadership. I know you said you are not interested in facts, but that is what happened. You are the only one who has used the word “hate.” We do not “hate” anyone. We are interested in building a fully functional working class party. Our preference is to remain within the CPUSA, but apparently our criticism of leadership cannot be tolerated. Any organization which quashes open discussion of its policy and expels anyone who disagrees with them will have trouble building any kind of movement.

    We hope that our little club can provide a venue for open discussion of problems within the party. We welcome further comments from working class people.
    This ticks at my brain a bit. It sounds eerily similar to Democrats complaining about (insert one: the DLC takeover of their party, the GOP control of the media, the Rich people taking all the money) with no corresponding discussion or plan for kicking these Just A Few Bad Apples out or starting new parties, or whatever.

    I really hope Houston won't become the CPUSA's Bernie Sanders.

    Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runs with scissors View Post
    I've been following this and I'd like to know more about it.
    From the Houston site:



    An admin response to a similar question:



    This ticks at my brain a bit. It sounds eerily similar to Democrats complaining about (insert one: the DLC takeover of their party, the GOP control of the media, the Rich people taking all the money) with no corresponding discussion or plan for kicking these Just A Few Bad Apples out or starting new parties, or whatever.

    I really hope Houston won't become the CPUSA's Bernie Sanders.

    Just sayin.
    From what I've seen the Houston club's criticism has been very similar to that voiced here, abandonment of M/L, abandonment of the physical press and the archives, tailing the Democratic Party. While I know that dual-partyism is frowned upon if not verboten(who needs another schism?) I'd be interested to see what would happen if these guys renamed their outfit CPUSA/ML and their ranks swelled. But then what? Jesus what a mess, somebody needs their asses kicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runs with scissors View Post
    I've been following this and I'd like to know more about it.
    From the Houston site:



    An admin response to a similar question:



    This ticks at my brain a bit. It sounds eerily similar to Democrats complaining about (insert one: the DLC takeover of their party, the GOP control of the media, the Rich people taking all the money) with no corresponding discussion or plan for kicking these Just A Few Bad Apples out or starting new parties, or whatever.

    I really hope Houston won't become the CPUSA's Bernie Sanders.

    Just sayin.
    I think that the difference is (and must not be lost sight of) is class. The CPUSA is supposed to be of, from, and for the working class, an outgrowth of the class, itself. The Houston guys are right when they question the class orientation of the "leadership". If you are seeing similarities between the CPUSA and the Democrats, in any respect, then that is an indictment of CPUSA "leadership". Democrats and Republicans work for and represent the capitalist class (Bernie Sanders, as well). When class is THE difference, everything else is kind of superfluous...
    "The present status of society is but the result of the struggle of humankind during this and preceding periods - yes, struggle! "You cannot reform society by the sprinkling of rose oil" said Mirabeau, and history proves the correctness of this statement. In no age did the rulers and despoilers of our race relinquish their hold upon the throat of their victims, unless forced to - by logic and argument? No...Blood, the precious sap was ever the price of liberty." August Spies, 1886

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalgren View Post
    When class is THE difference, everything else is kind of superfluous...
    That's very true. And apparently it's the elephant in the global room. It's frustrating watching events unfold, with "left" parties constantly revising their "left" positions to please and placate the capitalists. Someone, somewhere needs to take a stand. If Houston can do that, that would be awesome. For sure it has to start local and in our own communities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runs with scissors View Post
    I've been following this and I'd like to know more about it.
    From the Houston site:
    This ticks at my brain a bit. It sounds eerily similar to Democrats complaining about (insert one: the DLC takeover of their party, the GOP control of the media, the Rich people taking all the money) with no corresponding discussion or plan for kicking these Just A Few Bad Apples out or starting new parties, or whatever.

    I really hope Houston won't become the CPUSA's Bernie Sanders.

    Just sayin.
    First, the Disclaimer: The CPUSA is a proletarian party and any similarity between it and the political parties of the bourgeoisie is purely coincidental, etc.

    The truth: You are perceptive as usual. The greatest strength of the CPUSA was once its class composition. With McCarthyism, the death of the class-struggle unions, "popular" recruitment around issues like "peace", and the retirement and death of older comrades, the class composition of the party changed... while the schools for "middle-class bridge-burning" (primarily in the Union movement), became less and less utilized.

    The truth is that all political movements of "the Left" in the US since the 1960s have drawn heavily from the New Left and have often echoed the "clique of sellouts"/"we've been betrayed" personal politics of that time. The CPUSA is NOT excepted and this story was around way before Webb.

    It's sad but true and you still can't tell the players, even with a slogan card.

    Gotta get back to the important class and put this behind us.

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    Gotta get back to the important class and put this behind us.
    The cards are stacked against us. Industrial workers are at historic low numbers, and a significant number of those are now in 'right to work' states. The 'Reserve Army' is mighty large. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the time to advance when times are 'good'? We're certainly not there. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but is not one of the factors in the ability of industrial workers to press home their demands the fact that those enterprises are very profitable, so the capitalists might be more willing to 'bend' in the face of rising 'lost' profits? And where is the 'big money' today but finance, white collar, middle class workforce. What to do, what to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blindpig View Post
    The cards are stacked against us. Industrial workers are at historic low numbers, and a significant number of those are now in 'right to work' states. The 'Reserve Army' is mighty large. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the time to advance when times are 'good'? We're certainly not there. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, but is not one of the factors in the ability of industrial workers to press home their demands the fact that those enterprises are very profitable, so the capitalists might be more willing to 'bend' in the face of rising 'lost' profits? And where is the 'big money' today but finance, white collar, middle class workforce. What to do, what to do?
    Well, don't forget what happened in the past. If there were enough fist-swinging commies in the street as there were in 1932, things would move...you can bet on it...
    "The present status of society is but the result of the struggle of humankind during this and preceding periods - yes, struggle! "You cannot reform society by the sprinkling of rose oil" said Mirabeau, and history proves the correctness of this statement. In no age did the rulers and despoilers of our race relinquish their hold upon the throat of their victims, unless forced to - by logic and argument? No...Blood, the precious sap was ever the price of liberty." August Spies, 1886

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalgren View Post
    Well, don't forget what happened in the past. If there were enough fist-swinging commies in the street as there were in 1932, things would move...you can bet on it...
    The question is, 'is there a material basis?' Them 'fist-swinging commies' don't grow on trees, ya know? At least not until ya put in the orchard. The brush hasn't even been cleared.
    Social relationships have their inherent logic; as long as people live in given mutual relationships they will feel, think and act in a given way, and no other. Attempts on the part of public men to combat this logic also would be fruitless; the natural course of things (this logic of social relationships) would reduce all his effort to nought. But if I know in what direction social relations are changing owing to given changes in the social-economic process of production, I also know in what direction social mentality is changing; consequently, I am able to influence it. Influencing social mentality means influencing historical events. Hence, in a certain sense, I can make history, and there is no need for me to wait while "it is being made."

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