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  1. #41

    Lemme jump in a sec if ya don't mind. You are doing quite well.

    I am not entirely sure what you mean by “million year history.” If the form of the ax is irrelevant, then so be it. It’s then nothing more than a widget – a fictional product used to examine economic ideas. But to examine it in a specific point in time is a bit puzzling. I might entertain the consideration of the widgets use, utility, or value from any specific point in time; from the point of its production to the point of its full consumption (when the widget/ax is no longer able to serve any function). But to do so over a million year span? This I am curious to see elaborated.
    You only need to bust your train of thought into two shorter trains.

    The first sentence refers to the long human history of using an ax before it was ever offered up as a commodity.

    Your second and third sentences are fucking great and betray an almost innate grasp of this stuff right outta the gate.

    As a commodity at the point of exchange, the ax is not being USED as an ax. It's not exactly a fiction. I think vessel is perhaps a good subsitution. It is the carrier of value, its value in the marketplace.

    As for your contemplation of time, that is all very good once the ax has fallen out of the market and resumed its place as a USE VALUE, one that will eventually be consumed as you very rightly note.

    He just confused you by making his reference to time without sufficient detail for you to see where he was coming from. Absent that confusion, you are doing Great

    edit - its/it's :(

  2. #42

    Nevermind

    It was not insult to say that you needed to disentangle what you thought he meant in his reference to time from your, yes, very good next couple of sentences.

    If there were any evidence that you were and are confused it is the balance of your post above.

    Perhaps the other guy can help if you can resist making some wildly off the mark assumption...

    Barter ain't selling. Axes did exist for millenia before commodity production.

    Anyway though, nevermind. You obviously are not open to having even a part of this discussion with me.

    Fine.

    Keep on pitching. You were doing just fine, absent the innocent confusion that you chose to follow up with utter confusion. Must be that pesky handle I have now. Someone else wrote a whole trolling OP about it...

    My apologies.

    Really.

  3. #43

    Hey Code Man

    you may not like the idea, but at some point quantity blurs into quality. Produce 1 million widgets and its damn sure true that the character and nature of what you've produced is different than if you produce 5 units.

    It is no longer a question about the need for widgets but instead about the potential for exchange those widgets contain.

  4. #44

    The baseball analogy is pretty weak.

    But I do want to reiterate that I was being sincere both in my first post and in the second one when I apologized (*for not insulting you in the first place).

    Not sure what has you so incapable of grasping that, but it ain't me or the subject matter of the thread.

    What does that leave?

    You may want to back up to the thread "What is value?" so as to commence at the beginning of the exposition.

  5. #45

    Wrong

    Depends on the population that is consuming the widgets. One million I-pods being sold in Kansas, a population of 2.8 million. Or how about we only sell those in just the city of New York with a population of 8.3 million.

    So no we have two naked nuts dancing on the field thinking they hit home runs.

  6. #46

    Superficially, that sounds good

    except for the biggest issue you choose to overlook..not one I-Pod or widget is produced out of a concern for need. So then what, Code Man?

  7. #47

    "as week a grasp of the English language"

    Um. OK.

    Take the last word.

    Wow.

    You can't make this shit up, folks.

  8. #48

    Morality?

    I am saying that when a company decides to produce a million widgets/I-Pods they could give a shit how many people "need" one (or want one). They are produced entirely on the basis of what they can be sold for.

    Not one shareholder in Apple has stock options that are payable in I-Pods

  9. #49

    Way back when

    the Code Man posted some Star Trek fanfic and I attempted to help him with a few clerical mistakes (ok ALOT of clerical mistakes). He simultaneously shit a brick and popped a blood vessel.

    You've been forewarned..;)

  10. #50

    And morality has nothing to do with it?

    Oh, I see. They don’t share YOUR morals. I can see where that might be a problem when you have delusion of moral superiority.

  11. #51

    Tee he hee

    (He probably thinks I can't hear him.) ;)

  12. #52

    You could've at least spelled tee hee hee correctly

    ..

  13. #53

    Was the argument on this thread necessary? Who started it? Who alone drove it?

    Are you really going to debase yourself by associating yourself with such an outburst?

    Gotta say, team fealty is wonderfully strong here.

    Go Big Libs! Batterrrrrrr!! Batterrrrrrrr!

    What an absolute embarrassment.

  14. #54

    It is obvious that the Company goon squad has never read Marx

    and has no interest in understanding his work and how it applies to our own situation, in this time and this place. As TA said elsewhere, they are very much like Creationists, who disparage Darwin without ever understanding his work or even having any interest in understanding his work. To paraphrase a great human being, they are capitalist, running-dog, lackeys and it is good that they show themselves...

    Eta: Let's get back to work...

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    Have you ever heard the phrase...

    "No act of kindness will go unpunished..."?

    Seriously, dude.

  16. #56

    Let's continue the study, if you have the time and if you have

    recovered from the last few days of abject stupidity. Maybe a 3rd thread?

    I am not being impatient, but every few pages I read (I sometimes have to re-read pages) a light comes on in my head and I discover that I am in a small closet; I go outside the closet and I am in a larger, darkened room. When the next light comes on, I find I am in a slightly larger closet and step out into a larger darkened room. I would really like to get this chechenka doll bull-shit behind me! :)

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    Hiya, Dr.D...

    I am at your service. I will continue right here and ask Tin to pare off Mr. Baseball's subthread, above. Otherwise, length alone will make us start a third thread. Logically, the first standalone part ends with Section 4, "Fetishism". It is quite close but we have a little more slogging to go.

  18. #58

    That will work for me.

    I will keep my eyes peeled...

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