Can Kucinich win Ohio?

[davidgmills]

I'm just wondering because although I think he does not have a snowball's chance in hell of getting the Presidential nomination, I think he would be a very attractive VP for whomever ultimately wins the Democratic nomination for President.

He would be a huge help as well as an attraction if he could get Ohio to vote for him and whomever the ultimate Presidential candidate is.

But I guess it would also depend on who the Presidential nominee is and whether Ohioans can stand him or her.

So for any of you who might know, who would Ohioans see as a real turn off as a Presidential nominee whom Kucinich couldn't save.

[Virgil]

This Rasmussen Report concerning Ohio only has one paragraph about Kucinich- http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ntial_election

[b]Fifty percent (50%) say Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich's push to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney makes them think less of Kucinich; 30% say it gives them a more favorable view of him.

[davidgmills]

Hell I don't think Alabama would be that negative.

[Applezotz]

Richardson to carry the Democratic votes out here either,so this doesn't surprise me one bit.

[andrew]

Kerry 617,611 52%
Edwards 408,175 34%
Kucinich 107,685 9%

source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pri...ges/states/OH/

Finishing a distant third isn't exactly a vote of confidence from your home state.

[goobernator]

Kind of hard to follow that sort of logic if youre fact based, rather than faith based, as so much conventional Democratic reasoning tends to be. Sort of like blaming Nader for Gore's victory. If the system is lying, how can you do the math?
People like to believe things that have no bearing in reality, and when it comes to electoral strategies, the only thing that matters is the final perception. Call it plausible deniability or just the rationale for all those TRILLIONS spent on advertising. Counting the votes? Kind of a quaint notion at this point.
Letting false reasoning inform your vote choice is like loading the gun and begging someone to shoot you with it.

-I realize you may want to draw a distinction between the primary and the general, but why should anyone who has seen the machinations of the last 8 years make any such assumption? They cheat, lie and steal, everytime.

[spacebuddy008]

will be rubber stamped by Ohio a month later, probably.

I have a feeling the one most likely assumed to beat any republican
Edwards will be shoved down our throat.

Edwards did not win his own state NC in 2004
though all other state wide races besides Senate Erskine Bowles
democrats trounced.
neither did Gore win his own state, blatant in your face, haha!
from the election management team....

Ohio's largest county Cuyahoga told Diebold to GTFO and switched to paper ballots which will be scanned

the 21million dollar system failed in last election with a turnout of only 10-15% as recounts are still pending and impossible because the record of the vote was a garbled mess, ironically paper ballots counted by hand, would have been doable!

I think all these other pile-on candidates Obama, Biden, Richardson run to make it apear their is a middle right consensus and true change is fringe, marginalized, too risky to hope for...

see the primary schedules at www.votesmart.org

it appears Ron Paul may seriously fracture the Republican party, which Democrats should want, as Perot once split that vote.

is Ralph brave enough to run? why that huge special about him a couple weeks ago?

[andrew]

If one Edwards wins Iowa and Obama wins NH, who is the frontrunner?

[andrew]

Ohio will be stolen anyway, right?

[goobernator]

Thats some pure nonsense there.
If you cant see the sense in Kucinich's presence ANYWHERE in our discourse,
whatever are you thinking?
ITS THE SUPPORT THAT MATTERS.
join me.

[goobernator]

sorry, the other wasnt a fair response, but then again, anti-Kucinich sentiment is something that really gets my goat. What should seem obvious by now to interested parties is the absolute BULLSHIT factor of "polls/polling" as utilized by the true enemies of democracy to substitute for actual reporting or context or consumer relevant information. You'll get wall to wall poll references up until the day of theft, where the traditional exit polls need to be stopped. The threat of another stolen election should carry no weight when it comes to supporting the "right thing to do"
otherwise, you do have a conventional sentiment.
aka
"why bother"?
For me, its because I cant abide my tax dollars being used to kill people as a subsidy for profiteers.
People need to wake up to the real enemy here, and cancel their cable subscriptions. A threat like that might have some influence. Cancel your newspaper subs, kill your TV and step outside and do something to make things better for yourself and other people. Waiting for a miracle candidate to surprise you upon coronation is rather useless, but seems to be the subtext of the faithful's adherence.

[spacebuddy008]

http://www.vote-smart.org/election_p...mary_dates.php

Alabama 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
Alaska 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
American Samoa 02/05/2008 02/23/2008
Arizona 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
Arkansas 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
California 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
Colorado 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
Connecticut 02/05/2008 02/05/2008
Delaware 02/05/2008

Georgia
Idaho
Illinois
Kansas
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Missouri
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Tennesee
Utah

ALL 22 States Voting + Samoans that are Now Americans VOTING on 2.o5
=====================================================================


THE ONLY OTHER BIG STATES THAT MATTER
Florida 1.29.2008
Texas, Ohio 3.4.2008
Pennsylvania 4.22.2008


basically whoever has been decided the winner of the majority of the bolded, most populous states is all that matters

the first few early states are just momentum
2.5 you have California, Illinois and New York

and they establishment hand picked stooges will be boring it is then up to the people to get a third party movement fired up....

[chlamor]

prom.

Can he win?

Is he attractive?

Can they stand him?

Eeew, a real turn off!?

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...s/PromDate.jpg

[NavenDansk]

Don't believe that 50% think less of Kucinich for having the courage to bring formal Impeachment bill to charge cheney.

What is cheney's approval rating in Ohio? The pollsters have admitted for several years that cheney consistently polls under 19% approval rating so I think it is and has been less than that.

We need to support Dennis all the way, he is the only Congressperson to consistently do the right thing and we will show we have his back by voting for the only honest and courageous candidate.

[davidgmills]

Assuming he was offered and took it?