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    Footnotes from the Ukrainian "Crisis"; New High-Points in Cynicism Part III

    Footnotes from the Ukrainian "Crisis"; New High-Points in Cynicism Part III

    (As the original thread now has 1013 posts & has become unwieldy we'll start a new one. The old threads will be locked for further posting to prevent confusion.
    Original thread is here:

    http://www.thebellforum.com/showthread.php?t=113205

    Part II here:

    http://www.thebellforum.com/showthread.php?p=470990

    Never expected this to go on so long but we will stick with it to whatever end.

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    Ukrainian business



    colonelcassad
    August 28, 15:35


    Actually the whole history of the write-off of the Ukrainian debt to creditors under the "special conditions" on the one hand shows how naive were expecting a default in Ukraine and it is obvious they nedotsenivali role of US and transnational capital to fund its new colony. As has been said on this subject, would receive a dose of a drug addict, that he has not had convulsions, and he did not become a stark dead.

    But fans junkie there is nothing to be pleased especially for the new dose as before he would make furniture from the apartment. That is, in fact, we see how confident foreign capital puts Ukraine under its full control, which is a kind of classic imperialism. This plan does not meet the expectations of those who expected a quick economic samorazvala junta and those who hoped that everything that happens in 2013 is esktsessy and temporary "negorazdy." On the contrary, what is happening is very long and, along with the current deterioration of the standard of living is simultaneously accumulating the cumulative effects associated with the full financial enslavement of the country is under external control.

    Yatsenyuk Yaresko same Poroshenko, is native administration leaders that implement the wishes of the white Sahib. As a result, since the Ukraine Yanukovych now looks almost "Square of Krajina".

    Actually why the United States and needed Poroshenko (to provide immediate power and political control, he actually transferred formal control over the security agencies), Yatsenyuk (to control the processes of economic enslavement of Ukraine) and Yaresko & Co. (to provide direct international control over the Ukrainian economy. Of course this kind of economy, no one in Europe will take, but it is not particularly assumed. Within this framework, Ukraine should be a buffer between Europe and Russia (maintaining the proper level of conflict) and to be part of an anti-Russian cordon sanitaire, the contents of which will certainly not disinterested, and will be paid by all possible means, which stretches from Ukraine. Of course there is no bright future is not expected. PS. And on the subject of domestic policy of the junta. Block Poroshenko finally merged with the "blow", and the block led by Klitschko. Similar proposals made ​​and block Yatsenyuk . Actually, this is the continuation of a line on the centralization of military and political power around Poroshenko. The task is quite trivial, to hold a "defragment" the main political forces and create a powerful political unit on the basis of available koaliatsii in order to get the opportunity after the election, more tightly control the Verkhovna Rada. Venture cranks environment Poroshenko and agreement / disagreement Yatsenyuk will be seen if it will work on all the political blessing of Washington. Characters like Lyashko, fascists of "Dill" or "freedom" more than these guys are not required, they are a part in the seizure of power played and will continue to be relegated to the role, leaving the scene of a respectable gesheftopoluchatelyam coup and civil war. PS2. Just going around disassembly crash near Ilovaiskaya. Now got Glavred "Censor" Butusov, who according to the General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine all lied and takes the arrows to the commanders of the punitive battalion received the money from the structures on Muzhenko Kolomoisky and Homchaka. Lovely curse, only to amuse. In fact, if you take the whole catastrophe as a whole, then the rights Butusov soon as the disaster occurred in the first place due to the fault of the General Staff, which is catastrophically underestimated the script, which was implemented in August 2014. Blame it on in the characters like Semenchenko or Onishchenko, is a banal attempt to evade responsibility for a large number of dead dotted the fields below and Ilovaiskaya Amvrosievka. PS3.Nu and expected requirements of Zaporozhye provide them spetsstatus thrown down the toilet. "Zaporizhzhya Council stated they also need the status on the basis of 92-th article of the Constitution. No. No federalization and no status. And that is what we are going to vote on Monday in the Parliament. Shall open the lie and protect the unitary status of our country ", - said Poroshenko. According to him, and Changes to the Constitution of Ukraine in the part of the decentralization do not include the federal structure of the country and of the special status of the city or region. Commenting on paragraph 18 of the transitional provisions of the amendments to the Constitution, which defines the features of the functioning of local government in some areas of Donbass, Poroshenko said: " I first tell you about it. Did you know that the constitutional reform cancels the 92nd article of the current Constitution? Do you know that in the 92 th article of a clear statement: exclusively by the laws of Ukraine set the status, rather than individual issues of local self-government ... laws of Ukraine set the status of certain cities - this is the current Constitution. And it has tried to take advantage. " According to the president, the constitutional reform in terms of decentralization of Ukraine expects and Europe. It would be ridiculous if it were allowed, given the fact that the Russian proposal for reformatting Ukraine on a federal basis were rejected. Part of the Ukrainian elites perhaps would agree to federalization and real, not fictitious decentralization, but the problem is that the junta and its owners need a few more, so the "decentralization" will result in about the same farce that the Minsk Agreement, well, for the "unitary Ukraine "many more people will die.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2359651.html

    Google Translator

    Other photos of documents at link.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

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    Ishchenko: Russia May Soon Use Airforce on UAF
    August 27th, 2015 -
    By: Maxim Karpenko, PolitNavigator - translated for Fort Russ by Soviet Bear -



    In case if shelling of Donetsk residential areas grows stronger, Russia will have the right to send the aircraft and to suppress the enemy firing positions - said political analyst Rostislav Ishchenko on air of "Spas" TV channel


    According to him, Ukraine is provoking the militia to an assault in order to blame them for the violation of the Minsk agreements.

    "They need to provoke the NAF to the offensive in order to say that Minsk agreement was thwarted by the militia. The one who started to attack, is the one who denounced the Minks agreements – that’s the only thing the EU and the OSCE will see. In order to do this the terror shellings must continue, but the UAF cannot infinitely reinforce them – in the moment when they will literally begin to erase Donetsk from the face of the earth, Russia will have not only the right but the duty to intervene and to suppress these artillery batteries with airpower. You don't need to cross the border to do this – you can send the aircraft and resolve the issue," said Ishchenko.

    On the eve, the former Minister of youth of Ukraine Dmitro Bulatov who has been in a combat zone reported about the demonstrative flights of 6 Russian fighters near the Ukrainian positions.

    "Today around 7.00 5 Russian fighter jets flew over Luhansk. Yes, the Russian jets. Sources of information are reliable, on both sides. Also these aircraft were visible from the city of Schastye, Luhansk region and the surrounding heights.

    The flights of Russian military aircraft began over occupied territory in the areas near the frontline line, and continue in some places. It is not excluded that in the near future there will be the first flights over our territory. Short and unpredictable.

    We have something and we know how to meet them," wrote the former Minister on his page on Facebook.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/08...-airforce.html

    Well, it's a nice thought and would certainly bring some relief but given recent history I'll believe it when I see it.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

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    Never expected this to go on so long but we will stick with it to whatever end.
    This is a very important thread. From your first post last year to right now, these are necessary documents.

    Actually the whole history of the write-off of the Ukrainian debt to creditors under the "special conditions" on the one hand shows how naive were expecting a default in Ukraine and it is obvious they nedotsenivali role of US and transnational capital to fund its new colony. As has been said on this subject, would receive a dose of a drug addict, that he has not had convulsions, and he did not become a stark dead.
    This is what Greece and the rest of the EU should look at. The Greeks must rot and burn, but the shock troops of US imperialism will be granted a total write-off under "special conditions". What sickening, transparent hegemonic dominance. 'You have to repay your debts!' 'Well, you don't have to repay your debts, not if you will kill your own people at our command.'

    How long can people put up with this?
    "America was never great"

    "Anyone who analyzes the state of affairs in the world will find that it is the imperialists and capitalists, who subject the world to the worst poverty, the worst backwardness, and they are simply the scourge of mankind." - Fidel

    "Privilege begets psychopathy" - blindpig

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    Brief summary of the situation in Donbass
    POSTED BY NSANZO ⋅ AUGUST 28, 2015
    Original Article: Colonel Cassad

    This week I could communicate a number of people briefed on the situation in Novorrusia.

    You can not expect compliance in 2015, any agreement in which the word appears Minsk. On our side there is still interest in this option to end the conflict, but because of the position of the United States, these desires are irrelevant and the situation will continue to develop according to the scenario of confrontation. Donbass an election without the presence of Ukrainian parties see as the Kremlin's response to the refusal of the United States and Ukraine to implement the agreement in Minsk puppets. The task is simple: the legitimation by way of local elections without the current regime in Ukraine reference. Naturally, we will try to put pressure on Moscow to dropping the idea of ​​such elections.

    The restructuring of what was the Republican Guard and the entry of a significant part of the staff in the body of the militia is nearing completion. Throughout the summer it has increased significantly centralizing the military authority of the RPD. You can expect personnel changes in the leadership of the RPD in the near future as well as the continued renewal of military personnel management. It speaks to strengthen the existing structures and the emergence of new additional structures. The threat of Ukrainian attack makes it likely to continue the process of removing groups or militia commanders low or medium level disgraced.

    The financing of the republics will continue both in financial terms and in resources. Among the current challenges is to avoid the threat of a similar winter of 2014-2015, which caused deaths in the territories of the RPD and RPL famine. For now, the results are satisfactory harvest. The economy will continue on the path of separation from Ukraine. It will also continue legal and illegal charcoal trade with the junta.

    No concrete decisions on the issue of passports. The idea remains under discussion. If the idea is not full support of the authorities, it is likely that the RPD and RPL begin issuing its own passports. As for the idea of ​​another referendum, there is no concrete solutions: there are debates that are often confused with decisions already taken. The same applies to the future of the republics in their association or self-sufficiency.

    About the Voentorg, work continues in its usual form and is not expected to be terminated in the near future. Yes it is weak in some areas of the first line, where constant complaints about the lack of sufficient artillery and tanks are produced. The command preferred to keep the main base of heavy weapons in areas of concentration of reserves in the second front line. Considering the quantitative superiority of the Ukrainian Army, the command fears, with reason, the possibility of a breakthrough in the front (hence the recent complaints shown by the Ministry of Defence DPR) and you want more force to repel attacks Ukrainians .

    Overall, on the return of Donbass Ukraine. If the board feared attack warnings after Moscow and Donetsk, will continue to trench warfare medium intensity while in the rear continues the transformation of the unrecognized republics. The prolongation of the war in this way would the time to take steps for the formation of new states in Donbass, but this scenario does not see the near end to the war or to relieve pressure on the Russian economy by United States and its satellites.

    If the board risks despite European warnings, the options depend on the progress and outcome of the fight. In this shot, the board will use the United States and the idea of ​​external threat to plug the difficult economic situation. It is not expected that the United States stop scrutinizing casualties and processes in Ukraine in the medium term.

    http://slavyangrad.es/2015/08/28/sit...-en-donbass-5/

    Google Translator

    This a Cassad piece properly translated from Russian to Spanish by Slavyangrad then remangled by Google. Yet somehow it is more understandable than usual Russian>Google>English.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

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    Press conference junta soldiers sided with the LC



    colonelcassad
    August 28 at 19:30

    Video from the press conference Ukrainian soldiers sided with the People's Republic of Lugansk.
    They tell why and why did you decide to desert from the Ukrainian part and urged his former colleagues to follow suit.



    It is also worth mentioning that in Donetsk opened http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/8/28/763721.h tml monument to the dead civilians. And another. Foundation Maxim Grigoriev, who released two thorough report on the war crimes of the Ukrainian army and makes amusing infographic by shelling the territory of the DNI and LC (according to the OSCE), promises to soon make public full lists of the dead children in the Donbas.





    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2360305.html

    Google Translator
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

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    Old songs about the Su-25



    colonelcassad
    August 28, 20:50


    In addition to the recent material "it was another plane" http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/228 9586.html
    In an interview with volunteer with the call sign "Ear" (interview itself is not bad) contains an interesting clause on the topic of interest to us.

    A witness said he saw the plane hit the "Boeing" and then was knocked to Thorez. It is a pity that the author did not interview rasprosy him more that he just saw the details could shed light on what really happened in the area of disaster "Boeing". On good, in such cases it is necessary to collect evidence with a signature text. It is also worth to point out the recent interview Rutskoi on the subject of the Su-25 and "Boeing".


    [video]http://youtu.be/gd8Unfb_3gk[/img]


    "The Su-25, to strike more than the radius of the aircraft allows, we took off, gained altitude 7-10 thousand meters, turn right or left engine went to the goal on one engine, approached the goal, the second run, stabbed, again we gained altitude and returned on one engine "(c) Rutskoi

    That is strange. On this subject were different specialists and some confidently assert that the Su-25 at such a height can not work properly, while others on the contrary confidently say that the garbage issue, if desired, it is possible. Though like to discuss one aircraft with known performance characteristics of existing modifications and general practice application. Captain Voloshin, the Ukrainian Air Force. One of the suspects in the destruction of "Boeing". I remind you that the Dutch promise to make public the final conclusions in mid-October. This is still regarded as a version of "Buck" and the version with the aircraft http://snob.ru/selected/entry/95360?v=14 40,504,668. Apparently this is due to the appearance in the press of Captain Voloshin, who testified Agapov. After the interview http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/235 8683.html, which confuses all Voloshin denied today he testified Dutch it is worth to point out the statements of former CIA McGovern http://rusvesna.su/recent_opinions/14403 31753, which criticized the American position on the "Boeing", which in his opinion was the result of creativity "political hacks". Ha, as if it once and somebody stops. Suffice it to recall Secretary of State Powell, who was shaking at a meeting of the UN Security Council a test tube with the mythical weapons of mass destruction of Saddam Hussein, which was never found. So there was aggression with hundreds of thousands of corpses, and there are only a few hundred civilians. Still not a write. Plus translated article http://thesaker.is/mh-17-one-year-later/ on "Boeing" and Su-25. More than a year has passed since, as the flight MH-17 "Malaysian Airlines "was someone knocked. But we still do not know the truth, and the network circulate various hypotheses. In the West, a day after the disaster first Emperor Barak issued a decree according to which the party responsible for this crime are, of course, the forces of New Russia. It is as predictable as it does not matter, because no serious evidence of anyone in the West has been submitted. The Russians, on the contrary, does provide a lot of evidence. But they were immediately ignored without further ado. And again, it is as predictable as it does not matter. It is a fact that the Western interpretation of events in Ukraine firmly maintains that the MH-17 shot down, or Russian, or the forces of New Russia. Any other version is totally unacceptable and, therefore, should never be considered. And in any case, should not be recognized by Western politicians and their corporate media. But for the rest of the world remains an open question: who brought down the MH-17 and how? First, we know that Ukrainian air traffic controller directed MH-17 directly to the war zone and ordered to reduce the height. We also know that at least one Ukrainian aircraft was in the vicinity of the MH-17 that day. This was confirmed by Russian radars and several witnesses of the local, which saw at least one and maybe even two Su-25 in the air. Finally, we also know that Ukrainian air defense units were in the area on that day, their radars were included. Nobody saw large and well discernible trail of smoke that would accompany any large rocket launch. No one had heard anything unusual. Apparently the launch was not, however, Ukrainian radars were included. Why? I believe: MH-17 was shot down by Ukrainian Su-25. Critics of this theory point out that the Su-25 is a "support aircraft short-range", which was designed to fly at very low altitude and attacks on military convoys. That he never intended to fly very fast or very high. The Su-25 has no radar and missiles, air-to-air. Finally, the cabin of the Su-25 is not sealed. This means that the pilot can not rise above 7000 meters. All this is quite true. But these claims are missing the point. Firstly, while it is true that the cabin Su-25 is not sealed, the pilot only needs an oxygen mask. The aircraft can easily rise far above 7000 meters. It is true that the speed of the aircraft is not sufficient to intercept a large civil aircraft flying at cruising speed. Su-25 engines were never designed for high-altitude flights. They can raise the aircraft above 7000 meters, but can not develop enough speed in the rarefied atmosphere. As the Su-25 can do is carry the R-60 missiles with infrared guidance. These missiles do not require the radar, and their speed of more than 3 000 kilometers per hour, much higher than the speed of any civil aircraft. The problem of this missile is its range of small, only about 8000 meters. The Su-25 has no radar capable of detecting civilian airliners and guide the plane to them. But radar battery missile complex "Buk" certainly capable of it. Since the route MH-17 was known in advance, all that Ukrainians had to do is to keep one or two Su-25 patrolling at low altitude under the air corridor, which will fly MN -17. And wait until the operators of missile complex "Buk" send close situated Su-25 in the direction of an airliner at the appropriate time. All the pilot has to do after receiving the signal is sharply up towards the MH-17 and closer to the range of the missile (in this the case of less than 8 km from MH-17) and then to release the P-60. At this point, the missile itself to bring the most powerful source of radiation plane - one of the engines. R-60 missile is quite small and she will never be able to destroy such a large airliner, as "777", "Malaysia Airlines". But the F-60 is more than capable to destroy one of the engines "Boeing". At this point, the airliner began to quickly lose speed and then go into a sharp turn. Pilots at this moment trying to figure out what happened, to put out the burning engine and compensate for increased air resistance. By the way this is exactly what was observed on radar. Rapid loss of speed and altitude make "Boeing" easy prey for the Su-25, which has a powerful gun. The Su-25 can easily catch up with "Boeing" and finish the attack salvo of 30mm gun. Finishing off his goal, the Su-25 would have to dramatically turn around and return to base. That's exactly what they saw Russian radars. One may wonder why the Ukrainians have used aircraft to support short-range, such as the Su-25, instead of a dedicated interceptor such as the Su-27, or a fighter such as the MiG-29. Again, the explanation is simple: Ukraine has a lot more Su-25, Su-than 27 or MiG-29. Which also should be very obvious to any witness. In contrast, one (or possibly two) of the Su-25, which was entrusted with the destruction of MH-17, it will be very easy to hide any airfield east of Ukraine. It is because of the Su-25 is unlikely to choose to do this, this is the ideal aircraft for the execution of this textbook example of attack under a foreign flag. With regard to the "Buka", it is such a large and conspicuous missile system, that it is impossible to hide. In addition, if such a missile fired in broad daylight, the launch would have been clearly visible for miles around. However, if the battery is "Buck" just sent Su-25 MH-17, no one would have noticed it. No one except Russia, NATO and the United States, of course. As one of the men who supervised the military and civil air traffic over Europe, I can attest to the fact that several military personnel in Europe is constantly watching over the air space between the Atlantic and the Urals. These countries include the United States and NATO. This is especially true for the areas of fighting. In fact, the US and Russian AWACS aircraft are always present when there is a conflict anywhere near Europe. They watched the Gulf War, the war in Bosnia and Croatia, the war in Afghanistan and many other conflicts. Besides AWACS aircraft, the Americans and Russian use their satellites for monitoring any conflict zone. Of course, none of the parties does not wish to share all their information, but the real issue here is political: the United States will not share anything because of the need to defend the regime in Kiev . And all that divided Russia, will be immediately rejected as "propaganda". (This is what happened with that little piece of which the Russians have published.) I would like to add here that if the forces of New Russia downed MH-17, the United States could easily prove it. Just as they did in the case of KAL007 in 1983. (Ed: KAL007 - «747» "Korean Air" shot down by Soviet air defenses in the south-west of Sakhalin). In fact, in the 20 years that separate us from the destruction KAL007, the possibility of US intelligence has greatly improved. So I think that the United States could provide much more information than a conventional radio interception. Yet the United States did not provide anything. There is only one logical explanation for the strange US refusal to provide any information: US point the finger at the "wrong" side. In other words, the fact that the US did not make public any data, itself an indirect proof that the Ukrainians did. As far as the Ukrainians themselves, they are of course "just" know what happened. They have no need to "investigate" anything. There really is nothing to investigate. Ukrainians have made ​​it and the West will never recognize it. Http://russia-insider.com/ru/mn-17-skore e-vsego-byl-sbit-ukrainskim-su-25 / ri9399 - zinc in general continue to collect invoice airplane trail, which is a SAM-version in many moments do not fit in. It should also be noted that, as pointed out by some authors may want to consider a synthetic version associated with both the actions of the calculations SAM, and the actions of the pilots / aircraft is near " Boeing ".



    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2360305.html

    Google Translator

    Other photo and video at link.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

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    The special status is not



    colonelcassad
    August 29, 15:42


    Poroshenko on all the same.

    Poroshenko promised to avoid the parade of sovereignties in

    Ukraine, explained the head of the Ukrainian state, representatives of local communities, it is not necessary to look for in the Ukrainian Constitution reports of the special status of Donbass, it is a mode of local government in some regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions. In this Poroshenko promised that in a new version of the Constitution there will be no special status for certain cities, Interfax reported. Currently such privileges basic law gives Kiev and Sevastopol.
    According to him, individual regions have tried to take advantage of the position of the special status cities. In particular, with a similar request deputies appealed to the president of Regional Council of Zaporizhzhya region. "Next will parade of sovereignties. My changes to the Constitution this article are removed, and the right to the status will not be, "- Poroshenko said.
    The president also criticized those offering separate some Ukrainian lands and to live without them. "I do not accept and will never accept. I was elected by the people to protect the integrity of Ukraine, and I will do everything I can to return those lands Ukraine ", - he said.
    In late July, Poroshenko has already explained that the draft amendments to the Constitution regarding the uncontrolled Kiev regions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions suggests the possibility of a specific order of the local authorities in certain jurisdictions of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
    The special status of self-government in the Donets Basin - one of the key points of the Minsk Agreement, on the implementation of the self-proclaimed authorities insist that the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republic. http: // top. rbc.ru/politics/29/08/2015/55 e190259a79478480c00b93 - zinc PS. Actually, because the Russian proposals to reform Ukraine proved impassable, and the ultimatum the United States and was not accepted by Moscow, everything will go to the actual demarcation of Donbass and Ukraine. Relive talk about passports and referendums are a reflection of the simple fact that they were going study of options is associated with Minsk Agreement. From there come the recriminations and in the preparation of the offensive. Minsk process is dead, but the situation continues to evolve without him. PS2. Plus a great video "What you have achieved your Maidan?"



    It is clearly seen that in Ukraine there are still sensible people, and the fact that the intensity of hysteroid delirium still very great.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2361325.html

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    Social advertising Stakhanov



    colonelcassad
    August 29, 15:57


    In continuation of the news about the "special status" http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/236 1325.html
    reported that Stakhanov started hanging "social poster" advertising the Russian Federation.





    Despite the absence of any official confirmation of such events logically linked to advocacy measures to prepare for the autumn elections to local authorities (non-Ukrainian parties) and the probable but not inevitable referendum on entry into the Russian Federation.
    The title poster and do called separatist deja vu, we at one time actively used the slogan "Sevastopol.Krym.Rossiya."

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2361493.html

    Google Translator
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  8. #8
    My co-author of a previous book, Alex advised to carefully read the article by Vladimir Gorbulina published yesterday in the Ukraine. Gorbulin - iconic characters as Alex describes it: "... the gray cardinal Kuchma, perhaps the only systematic thinking people in the Ukrainian" political circles ". Colossal connections in Washington. Each of the
    US ambassadors considered it his duty to cooperate with him ... "




    Article in the media - a way to bring the public a series of ideas, and there is no doubt that in this case the address Gorbulina - not ukropolitikum. The part of him that is able to understand this, too, had expressed similar ideas, others to explain practically useless - or can not understand, in principle or can not for various reasons, to follow the logic of the author. The essence of what has been said is quite clear: the leading and the real policy of Ukraine is brought to information "partners" in the Kremlin believe that losing their policies, tactical successes are not able to change the strategic defeat, it's time to submit it. Gorbulin demonstrates that in Kiev understands the problems of the Kremlin in Donbas, and the problems that Moscow simply does not understand what to do:



    "... The economic blockade has put both the boevikov-" militia "and their masters in the Kremlin quite a difficult situation." Exemplary "convoys of beautiful pictures suddenly turned into a real need - and the population of the occupied territories has become almost a new demand "humanitarian aid." The leaders of "DNI / LC" were so unsuited even to any systems management territories under their control, it has become a constant headache for the Kremlin. Moscow is forced to keep it a permanent contingent of not only their "military experts", but even upravlentsev- administrators and leaders themselves "DNI / LC" to instruct on a school assembly - step by step, explaining and controlling each step. In general, this is not surprising - the traditional promiscuity Moscow in the media and the people give their bitter fruit. It is difficult to demand effective management whole regions of the former owners of kiosks, gas stations workers or security guards supermarket. In addition, Russia is playing against fostered, including the Russian media (primarily TV as the main "zomboyaschiku"), deeply paternalistic model of behavior of residents of Donbass. This behavioral model is closely connected with the firm conviction that all feed and clothe a transcendent, "a father", in whose image is constantly Putin - the main "behave" and listen to everything he broadcasts. Moreover, all supported the creation of "DNI / LC" sincerely believe that behaved "well" and will be very aggressive demand from the "father of the priest," the performance of his part of the formal agreement ...





    "What has been said quite rightly, to add to it there is simply nothing. Several mockingly Gorbulin comments misunderstanding of the Kremlin, what to do with the volunteers. The requirement to urgently create border guards DNI and LC in his opinion is directed not to delimit the "line of contact" with the APU, but has the opposite goal - to prevent the output of the volunteers back to Russia, as the Kremlin had no idea what to do with these people who have questions to the government, simply betrayed them. It can be assumed that the veteran organization Borodai created not only for cutting the budget (although, in practice, these structures eventually begin to do just that) - that to do with returning volunteers, in fact, no one knows. "We have to not send" - the standard answer, but in the period of the rise of social and economic crisis, its efficiency is not too high. Gorbulin estimates Minsk agreement in its present form unacceptable for Ukraine (interestingly, for Russia, they look exactly the same). Gorbulin categorical conclusion: "... Hence the absolutely clear and understandable position of Ukraine: strategically not to be led by the Kremlin and tactically not to play with him on the issue of Donbass on his script. It is already clear that the" return of all costs "- is hopeless Ukraine's position. Of course, the alternative radical scenarios like "let them go at all," and far from constructive. However, the reintegration of Donbass in the Ukraine on the terms of Russia clearly will not. I should say frankly: the occupied territories of exclusively economic point of view no longer represent a significant interest to Ukraine ... "And here, in fact, Gorbulin writes that, for what, and published an article:" ... In a strategic sense, Ukraine is considering the occupied territories and its policy against them with a much more realistic way than it was before. Certainly we are not going to abandon them and will continue until the end to defend the integrity of Ukraine, but it does not mean that we are ready to Glory Road. And here is obviously not the place to debate the notorious "special status" that so concerned separatist fighters - we can speak only about some features of the local government. If Moscow hopes that under the cover of talk about "special path" and "special status" to them Kiev will be able to take on all the economic consequences of restoration of Donbass, while policy actions will determine Moscow - it is even more serious error and the Kremlin than the continuation of its assessment of Ukraine and its potential from the standpoint of 2013, and not today. At the same time, Ukraine will be ready to go for the most stringent scenarios until the script of "The Wall", where separatists and the Kremlin will remain alone with each other. It is to prevent such a scenario today directed all politics and propaganda of Moscow ... "This is a direct threat to the refusal of the Minsk accords and advance to the blockade of Donbass, dropping him to Russia, where she was absolutely not ready. More precisely, the Russia is ready, but Russia - this is not the Kremlin. It is two infinitely distant from each other phenomenon. Hostile our country, the power of thieves and oligarchs never interested in the national interests of the country they robbed wholesale and retail. In the conditions of growing crisis, under the pressure of sanctions The Kremlin, in such a situation would be three times to pay for a mediocre policy in Donbas. For the first time - when forced to contain the same gang and mediocre power in the "People's Republic", unable to any constructive action. The second time - to protect her, pumping arms and creating protective boundaries in case of breakouts APU, well aware of the combat capability built on the principle of mercenary "shells." Finally, the third time - in the case of the blockade have to risk the stability of the Russian budget lean, fast, forced feeding it unnecessary population of Donbass. It is clear why the Kremlin is so eager to throw off the Donbass - he just does not understand what to do with it, and most importantly: the sanctions. Now no one screaming in patriotic frenzy about their insignificance, on the contrary - more and more problems are charged to their destructive action. This is the weak point of the Kremlin in Kiev understands. If Kiev went to Minsk agreement in September and February, largely internally (the first time - simply because between Kiev and the "holidaymakers" there was no force capable of stopping the latter, the second time - in similar circumstances began defeat), but now the balance is restored and Kiev there is no sense to continue to help the Kremlin to get out of an unpleasant situation. Now in Kyiv reflect on the theme: well, at the end of December, we will give Donbass. And we need it? Yes, even at such a disadvantage? Is it too cheap we let the loser? There lies the answer to the question: what is the meaning of the article Vladimir Gorbulina. Yes, the money, what else. He explicitly says that Ukraine is not profitable in the present circumstances to take Donbass and pay for its restoration and maintenance of the population. Either Russia will pay for everything - or let it hang over. None of its territory does not give up - we are talking about further weakening of the enemy, and only then, with more favorable terms, maybe ... What can I say? It is a sober article very significant threat. The fact that the Kremlin is not ready for such a turn of events, it makes no sense to discuss - the last year he declares only one theme: the return of Donbass in Ukraine. No other targets at the Kremlin's policy is not and is not visible. There are no alternatives, too. Here at this point and decided to beat. Any decision within the Kremlin's logic will lead to further deterioration of the situation. This is necessary to realize that a military solution to the crisis have been virtually exhausted. Kiev he was not afraid. Even in the case of its military defeat, he is quite realistic about the possibility of surrender of almost zero. Moscow did not dare to fight under any circumstances - in the best case, it will restore the current status quo. Victory for the Kremlin in the circumstances, no. Of course, it is possible - but only with a complete change of strategy. And not only in the Ukrainian direction. And it is under the current leadership in the Kremlin - pure fiction. These people have betrayed everything and everyone, and to suspect them in a sharp reversal did not have to. Therefore Gorbulin quite clear and categorical. Kiev nothing to worry about - you need further squeezed the situation.

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    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  9. #9
    It is difficult to demand effective management whole regions of the former owners of kiosks, gas stations workers or security guards supermarket.
    That asshole. Condescend much? What an elitist piece of shit.

    The betrayal of the Donbas will be remembered; no one gets away with it.
    "America was never great"

    "Anyone who analyzes the state of affairs in the world will find that it is the imperialists and capitalists, who subject the world to the worst poverty, the worst backwardness, and they are simply the scourge of mankind." - Fidel

    "Privilege begets psychopathy" - blindpig

  10. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalgren View Post
    That asshole. Condescend much? What an elitist piece of shit.

    The betrayal of the Donbas will be remembered; no one gets away with it.
    Same old crap we been hearing from ruling class assholes forever, "You proles couldn't pour piss out of a boot without our direction." Yeah, well, the history of the Soviet Union puts the lie to that conceit.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  11. #11
    It was really crazy



    colonelcassad
    August 29, 23:19


    Following the recent information on large losses APU under Mariupol and Starognatovkoy http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/235 9312.html, despite the watchful eyes of military censorship in the press leaked some details quite big tactical failure of the APU with the elements of a stampede.

    Battalion MAT fled from the battlefield under Volnovaha shamefully throwing weapons

    Despite the so-called truce of varying intensity clashes between the Armed Forces of the Republic and the APU did not stop almost never. On the night of 26 of August 27, the Ukrainian army clashed with the militia under Volnovaha, during which suffered significant losses. The Web, meanwhile, there are some details of the fight, not very pleasant for the Ukrainian side, and it is clearly demonstrating its moral and martial state.
    As it turned out, soldiers of the 40th Battalion of the APU, to put it officially, illegally left position, and simply put, running from the battlefield at Starognatovki - White Kamenka, leaving with the military equipment.
    "Just found out the details of the death of 19-year-artavodov. Hmm. That even I, seasoned web, tweet - I will not peck. Who already knows - will understand", - wrote in a Twitter-known thriller "ATO" under the name "White boss." "Even in the morning, many shouting -" Nobody ran away! ". Now write," yes - run away, but a little bit, and not throwing technique. Everything as usual. I will say this. Horror - not the number of dead, but why it happened and how. There's really - it was crazy ", - he shares the details." I do not give exact unverified Old. Today, the building was officially named 40bat. Now - and I can write. It is already possible. Fled - 40th baht. It turns out, really, and did not return. SAU least one standing there unattended, right now. Come - assorted metal "- sums up the" White boss. "" I'm happy pishushih, the absence of large losses in the 72nd: where and when I wrote that it byla- 72ya? Dezavuiruete - a possible state of emergency "- said the military, quoted by" Russian Spring ". Recall, as a result of this fight APU lost at least 21 th person killed and about 30 wounded. These figures are the chief of staff of the 5th ON AQL" Right Sector "Alexander Karas." phoned on the old bonds. Tonight, in the area Starognatovki 72 Brigade and the 41st Battalion as a result of enemy artudara 21 - 200. The 300's can not yet count. Familiar journalists tried to ring up morgues Volnovakha etc. Those who do not provide information, according to the order, which is received from the leadership "- said Karas. Http://ukrop.dn.ua/cgi-bin/ukrop/start.c gi? Info1 = 3075 - Zinc In fact, it certainly is not much of a epic victory, more tactical success of VSN, which turned to the junta sensitive loss in men. Apparently, after the revitalization of the junta under Starognatovkoy, White Kamenka and New Balaclava, to the front then hiked several batteries and a couple of times seriously teach a lesson to the junta that some ukrovoinov caused so familiar on Ilovaiskaya and Debalcevo panic attacks. When projecting a state of all APU's certainly not worth it, there is a completely shelled and stable parts, but as we see, even after one and a half years of war, Panic attacks are still a serious problem for the APU. I must admit that the 40th Battalion commemorated is not the first time. Hello, friends. The worst fears have come true. 40 battalion was surrounded. Bombs from all sides. There is an attack armored vehicles and infantry. Heavily armed guys no ammunition is running out. There is help from the right sector, but what they can do - is not clear. Utyuzhat themselves. And now the most important thing: Combat Battalion 40, leaving soldiers to die, ran to Horn Pray for our Heroes It's just a ***. The boys call me and dictate the number of wives and mothers, "it would be if that." Ssuka. *** Kombat "brought" with 70 people (such as saving), but these are the 70-ton, who already were at the headquarters. A minimum of 170 people at the moment are virtually surrounded. For him work grads, hurricanes and sniper. At the position where there is Serjik today went infantry seporov after mortar fire. The boys got out. Ammunition ends. At the moment the kid goes to the right sectors. They will they probyutsya. There are krasapuny sho teeth vein seporam gnaw (figuratively ... but ... he proboval- not tasty))). On the right side .. The men have taken a defensive perimeter. When the "watered" hail or hurricanes - nykat and correctly. Secrets of work. Every night 15-20 seporov catch. The men hold. In short, as always, in the Ukraine, pans derutsya- at lackeys forelocks trischat. who can make the maximum repost. Guys forgotten. Combat went !!! Those who have accounts on Bk, Friendster, FaceBook, help save the children !!! They do not want to leave. We decided to fight to the last !!! http://rusvesna.su/news/1409000806 - Zinc According to the Chief of Staff of Ukraine, Debaltsevo been lost because of the 40th Battalion opened the passage to the Debaltsevo, 107 fighters surrendered and exactly three days militia were transferred to Kiev on their own initiative, without any conditions. "After the 40th Battalion discovered the enemy two reference points, the need to close the section of the front width of more than two kilometers. And it did 23 fighter of the 95th Brigade, hold these positions when raiding the enemy were already in the Debalcevo. Not one hundred and two hundred people, and 23 paratroopers. Consolidated detachment of soldiers of the 95th brigade of the total number of about 70 people and a company formed on the basis of the 1st Battalion, 79th airmobile brigade .. - is, in fact, extreme ... It reserves all that was, "- said Muzhenko. http://ria.ru/world/20150829/1214792164.h tml - zinc (which is incidentally captured scheme http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/208 3388.html strongholds Battalion who were surrounded in the area Debalcevo and where part of the battalion grind). In defense of the runners from the 40th Battalion would like to say that Debalcevo was lost not because of the 40th Battalion left position, but because the General Staff of Armed Forces of Ukraine and the command of sector C hit catastrophically underestimated by Uglegorsk on Logvinova. And now of course they are looking for scapegoats. All are guilty only Muzhenko all in white. In general, it is not clear why this part has not disbanded. And as part of the final well-deserved, more such. UPD: Update as a friend of ducats. White Bosspesekcot · 1 hour. 1/2 After yesterday's fire, one of the baht APU to the left of us - escaped from the position. Leaving guns. Combat tried to keep - want to shoot ... 2/2 the morning - returned. During this time - the orcs have come to their position, they dragged a pair of rapier and mortars. And - gone. Ohrenet - soldiers. Thirteen ® @ dertien1488 · 1 hour. (Azov fighter).pesekcot Pair of rapiers? They than trucks stopped? Oheret .... White Boss pesekcot @. @ Dertien1488 I dumayu- their own MTLBhami.Ochevidno. From us - exactly 3 km.Znali to earlier - it is better to pick yourself, damn it. Http://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/825 818.html - zinc plus a large photo report from RIA FAN White Kamenka. Https: // vk .com / id111228080? z = album-91950 426_219983095 - Zinc



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    Many other photos at link.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  12. #12
    The explosion in Kiev



    colonelcassad
    August 31 14:23


    In Kiev, at the Verkhovna Rada, where fascists protested against the law on decentralization http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/236 3936.html explosion. The soldiers guarding the building was thrown grenade. While talking about 15 wounded, including several heavy.
    UPD: According to specified data, the number of wounded exceeded 30 (mostly soldiers natsigvardii - one shot off the leg knee, although among the wounded including journalists TSN).



    The moment of throwing grenades at natsigvardeytsev. Pay attention that the splinters of the grenade struck the fire extinguisher. While that sounds more like some kind of anti-personnel grenade, although it is possible and the option of an improvised explosive device with self-made destructive elements. "Gidnosti Revolution" continues.













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    Other photos at link.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  13. #13
    These oligarchs want to be worshipped as gods, when they are the real "bydlo" with no honor and no sense of shame

    08.30.15. Note from Maxim Kalashnikov. "Take that, Grandma," imperial revolution "... On the career builders current ORDILOSOSa. Until the arrow and a handful of volunteers fought in Slavyansk ... Time to unmask ruthlessly. Russian Spring suffocated and transformed into Ahmed Surkov-titushnuyu cloaca . Let us remember that it was in the spring of last year. And where did the current "elite" DNR. Let us remember how committed suicide Novorossia hands not of Kiev ... DECISIVENESS HALF So, when the decision of the Crimea, it has until recently remained unknown to the liberal wing of the government . When the peninsula began to unfold, and already there were "polite", it noted two calls from overseas premiere Medvedev (formal premiere) and the premiere of truth - the protege of the Yeltsin family Shuvalov. Like, what's going on. Those were not aware of the case and answer: domestic, de, the conflict in Ukraine. There is undeniable role in the decision of Vladimir Putin. He really stunned the court liberals. But then his determination disappeared. Donbass "Crimean option" He refused, though not prevented the squad Igor Strelkov log in Donbass and arrive at "Villa Maria" in Slavyansk. Maybe GDP thought it would be possible to take fright at the Kiev, Kiev but still not afraid. And start a war. Let awkwardly and reluctantly at first, but started. Having refusing to rapid accession Donbass became doomed to death, destruction and savagery, to poverty and unemployment. And Crimea - on the thirst, the blockade by land and economic depression. Do you know what it looks like today station in Simferopol? RUSSIAN SPRING scare FIRST KREMLIN Do you know what happened next? Russian Spring frightened especially the Kremlin. This is when people begin to select the property from the oligarchs, even though neighboring "states"? Well this is a bad example. And in any way, then they will come to Russia - and the same will be engaged? Because Igor Strelkov from the very beginning was doomed to isolation and the People's Governor Pavel Gubarev - by throwing out a new "elite". Kremlin course appointed prime DNI beard. He said that the move? With the revolution, they say, it's not the social and imperial. Because - you know - the main Donbas oligarch Akhmetov seizures do not need to expose. But who needs "imperial revolution," if it continues to live under the yoke does not have the most intelligent and greedy tycoon? Fuck if people such "empire"? But the Kremlin decided that way, "empire" while preserving the old masters. So it ordered the appointed curator of Surkov-Dudayev. Raven a crow does not eat dog. Oh, what a deal Akhmetov and Surkov, I do not know - there needs questioning. But it is not hard to guess. Prime Boroday saluted. From the outset, it was decided to remove the "wild" type Stelkova idealists, Gubarev and brain, replacing them with titushek - servants Akhmetov since domaydannyh times. What "Empire" They brought? What "empire" could bring political strategists? We know perfectly well, as one of the chiefs sent from Moscow DNI first of all engaged in trafficking in looted and taken away luxe cars. I spent a few thousand grinbakov on briefcase made ​​from crocodile leather. Type - should observe the status. Every evening he brought a prostitute every night he blew a bottle of whiskey. The suite he flicked ash on the floor would collapse on the bed in shoes. In general, he behaved like a boor-convict from the early '90s. A portion of the money that had been so necessary in the battle sweltering garrison Slavyansk, remained at the disposal of the new authorities. As well as the weapons that had to go in the Slavic. Appointees from the outset staked on titushek Akhmetov. They pumped the weapon. And while Slavyansk strelkovtsy were forced to fight with antitank guns Simnova times World, with a broken howitzer "Nona", with grenades for RPG that triggered one of the three, and with few ATGM, the new authorities in Donetsk created titushechnuyu rear army protects property Akhmetov. Property looted in the 90th. That's a great example. May 25, 2014 Residence oligarch Rinat Akhmetov was taken under the protection of soldiers "Hold", which was announced by Prime Minister Alexander Boroday DNI. This - the hottest fights in Slavyansk when fresh every ten men would have been a huge help. But in Donetsk chiefs preferred to "fight" for property Akhmetov. When, after the Sunday rally people went to Akhmetov's residence, they were met by soldiers of the organization "Hold", covered in camouflage with guns at the ready, and who tried to stop the march, warning of armed men Akhmetov, which is empty dissatisfied for stuffing. The crowd did not listen and still continued its "go", which ended at the entrance to the residence of a businessman. Here again, the protesters met fighters "Hold", which flatly refused to let someone else in. Programmed WEST know, for that I despise the current "elite"? Because it is fully programmable West. Even in small things. Do you remember the "uniform" racketeers and gangsters' 90s? Sports pants, denim jackets and thick "Gold" on the neck. It - crooks face in American films of 80's and early 90's. Russian "lads" just stared at Vydac and ape. His mind they do not. In fact, just slavishly imitating the West and more "cultural" liberal "reformers" and officials. . His brain is not, they can only repeat what comes from the West. Hollywood and its programs. I recall one film from Hollywood. Early 90s. I do not remember names. Thus, post-nuclear world. Criminals terrorize the community of survivors. But not just because they say they build an empire. Damn, really Hollywood and then programmed "imperostroitelstvo" in the Donbass? Down to the last detail. They killed a Russian spring, alas. And now conduct business to transform the shadows of New Russia - first in ahmetosurkovskuyu "republic", and then in ORDILOSOS. Parts of Donetsk and Lugansk regions with a special status ... a part of Ukraine. Sickly, but "imperial revolution" came out. Catherine II just crying. And for that lost their lives and thousands of brave civilians? They, it turns out, in the name of Akhmetov and the Kremlin spin doctors died? But who is cheating? Only zombie admirers. We-we see that the ribbons of steel cover outright criminal cynicism. Like the memory of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War in Moscow itself now serves as the cover of mafia and criminal Sisem naledstvennoy, neo-feudal elite. You all were taken in his holy shit! From: http://vk.com/strelkov_info?w=wall-57424472_72655

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    Google Translator
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  14. #14
    The explosion in Kiev
    Okay, I am google translator illiterate. Who was protesting and who was guarding? The protesters were the ones who threw the grenade, right? Were they Nazis or were the Nazis guarding the building? I'm sorry, but with the Ukes, you need a fooking scorecard.
    "America was never great"

    "Anyone who analyzes the state of affairs in the world will find that it is the imperialists and capitalists, who subject the world to the worst poverty, the worst backwardness, and they are simply the scourge of mankind." - Fidel

    "Privilege begets psychopathy" - blindpig

  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalgren View Post
    Okay, I am google translator illiterate. Who was protesting and who was guarding? The protesters were the ones who threw the grenade, right? Were they Nazis or were the Nazis guarding the building? I'm sorry, but with the Ukes, you need a fooking scorecard.
    Right Sector protesting against some law referencing 'decentralization', not sure of details. National Guard protecting Rada were attacked with grenade, and now it seems firearms as one victim was found to be shot a number of times. Right Sector wants full prosecution of ATO now!!! Fuck Porky & his co-conspirators, cleft stick and all that, only question is whether US Embassy is behind this or if the Nazis are going rouge.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  16. #16
    Overview of the military situation in the New Russia August 31



    colonelcassad
    August 31 21:14


    Overview of the military situation in the New Russia August 31

    The total military situation
    by the end of summer in the Donbass remains difficult military situation. Groupings sides deployed and both sides say that the enemy is preparing to move to the offensive while fighting continues to evolve, mainly positional key, where the main role continues to be artillery. Attempts to carry out small operations APU offensive at the front, to the south of Donetsk, in general, did not bring success to the enemy, and this kind of activity by the end of the month declined slightly. Statements DNR leadership of Ukrainian troops concentration areas and potential directions of the main attacks, apparently forced to adjust plans Ukrainian General Staff, which has already led to the movement of troops behind the front line. In turn, the activity of APU Volnovakha direction has forced commanders to strengthen BCH threatening direction. Overall, last week was marked by a number of small tactical successes BCH and increased losses of the enemy, while maintaining obschestrategicheskoy situation without significant changes.

    The overall political situation the beginning of autumn, the political and diplomatic situation surrounding the DNI and the LC remains close to deadlock. The talks in Minsk and chat with Putin, Merkel and Hollande did not lead to major changes in terms of realization of political settlements Minsk agreements. As before, the main problem is a different understanding of the parties items Minsk Agreement, in the framework of the structural antagonism between the US and Russia makes it impossible for a diplomatic solution to the conflict. Gradually came to the fore the issue of elections in Donbass and Ukraine, which also reflects a different understanding of the conflicting parties towards a settlement . DNR and LC are willing to hold the elections on their own legislation, which stipulated the participation of Ukrainian political parties. In Ukraine, it was decided that the occupied APU territories DNI and LC elections did not take place, and on the topic of elections in the DNI and LC in synchronization with France and Germany made ​​statements about the inadmissibility of the election scenario in Moscow. The statements were accompanied by threats of new sanctions if this "red line" is crossed. At the moment, the parties continue to prepare for parallel elections in the Ukraine and the People's Republic, which will consolidate the continuing division of Donbass and Ukraine. Regarding military items Minsk Agreement, points on the challenge of heavy weapons and the ceasefire is still not satisfied, and only part of the paragraph on the exchange of prisoners of war processes improved somewhat, although the full implementation of this paragraph relating to the exchange of all prisoners of war, we are not talking. In Overall, the "Minsk-Norman" format in the past six months and could not lead to the establishment of peace in the Donets Basin, and is used by both parties to the conflict to cover a variety of actions of the military-political nature.

    The situation on the fronts of the DNI and LC main event, as previously unfolded on DNR territory. The LC is already quite a long time, the number of attacks and clashes markedly lower than in the DNI, which is explained by the fact that the main forces of the parties deployed it on the fronts of the NPT and that is where the parties expect the active actions of each other. However, it is in the LC in the last there have been "territorial increment" when VSN took part neytralke style activity APU Spartacus and Zhabunkov. Such successes are more propaganda, as it does not lead to significant changes in the operational and tactical situation. On the territory of the NPT, despite the ongoing shelling and clashes near Donetsk and Gorlovka, the main events took place to the south. Activity APU Volnovakha direction resulted from early August to a series of battles and clashes in Rheine New Balaclava, Starognatovki and White Kamenka. And the initial tactical successes APU to the middle of the month came to naught, but closer to the end of August and all led to a series of painful setbacks. The reason for this is quite simple - identifying the activity of the APU in this regard, the command AUL brought up the reserves, including the additional forces artillery, causing the forces that APU trying to achieve there success became inadequate to the challenges posed by the troops. Strengthening artillery VSN group increased as the loss of the enemy during the fighting forces intelligence services strengthened the company commander and tactical groups and banal shootings at the front position. The highest-profile event was the flight of the 40th battalion of the territorial-defense (former battalion "Kryvbas"), which was subjected to the concentrated fire of artillery BCH and lost, according to various estimates from 21 to 27 people were killed and dozens wounded, fled from their positions, leaving equipment and ammunition (according to some sources, on VSN seized several guns battalion positions and items of equipment). This fact showed the presence in APU of the same weak-stable parts that like in 2014 turning into a stampede at a serious push on them. Nevertheless, this tactical success of VSN to serious changes in the position of the front is not led. MAT received a painful lesson, and lowered its activity in this direction. Taking into account the loss for Mariupol and other clashes under Starognatovkoy, the enemy lost over the past week up to 50 people dead and more than 120 wounded. The bulk of the losses came in the fire mortars and howitzers BCH. In general, it is obvious that without entering into battle mechanized units and massing of artillery on the key areas of major successes parties will be difficult. It should also be noted that in the rear areas DNI began to cut the military commandant's office that says that the command of the BCH quite confident in their abilities and prevents the likelihood that the APU will be able to deep operations with access to the rear communications DNI. Rear commandant, played an important role in 2014, now become less aktaulnymi, although the front-line cities of them are unlikely to refuse. Frontline The village Lugansk - Happiness - Slavyanoserbsk remain unchanged. Information on both sides of the hysteria that APU Happiness or plan to leave satisfied with the war there "Aydar" generally remained in the information space. Happiness is still regarded as one of the key nodes of Defense Severoluganskogo front. The main reserves are still located northwest Slavyanoserbsk and in the Crimea. Configuration group is offensive in nature. In general, the site Bahmutki is most favorable for both sides in terms of conducting active offensive operations - at this stage, and this favors the terrain and weather. Plot front near Novotoshkovskoy, Popasnaya and Svetlodarsk arc has a tendency to preserve the positional nature of the fighting, but the enemy is still waits for activity on the part of the Stakhanov groups BCH on Artem direction and route Artemovsk-Debalcevo.

    The trends of the current trends worth noting departure APU on tactics terrorist attacks on the front-line cities of the DNI and the LC and the transfer of the main efforts on the firing positions of the BCH, which is obviously due to the international pressure on Ukraine from Europe. VSN fire on positions not cause such a media and public attention, so in the framework of positional activity quite meet the challenges of maintaining medium-intensive conflict. It is also worth noting the reduction in the number of combat intelligence to the end of August, due to the quite tangible losses and unsatisfactory results. After limited success late July - early August, when the APU could using such tactics take several plots neutral zone, VSN to adapt to it and in the second half of August had an effective opposition.

    Conclusions In general, given the current diplomatic situation, the war, as before, will continue. The basis of the fighting will be positional fighting, with both sides will seek opportunities to demonstrate the activity of an offensive at the tactical level, are preparing for offensive and counter-offensive operations. The attack is a tool out of the diplomatic impasse, and in Kiev, increasing the temptation to disrupt the elections to local authorities DNI unleashing high-intensity combat operations. Currently offensive difficult breaking the group and plans for the APU and the pressure from the EU, requiring freeze the conflict and prevent a new escalation. In early September will be another attempt to translate the fighting in nikzointensivnuyu phase and reduce the number of attacks. Here, much will depend on Kiev and Washington, who may be reluctant to indulge Berlin plans to restructure Zinc PS. It should be added that even after the material has been written, it became known that the DNI and LC do not recognize the law on decentralization, which drags through the Verkhovna Rada Poroshenko, since it does not fit with what is signed in Minsk.

    http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2365330.html

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    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by blindpig View Post
    Right Sector protesting against some law referencing 'decentralization', not sure of details. National Guard protecting Rada were attacked with grenade, and now it seems firearms as one victim was found to be shot a number of times. Right Sector wants full prosecution of ATO now!!! Fuck Porky & his co-conspirators, cleft stick and all that, only question is whether US Embassy is behind this or if the Nazis are going rouge.
    I found this from AFP:

    Deadly clashes in Kiev over autonomy plan for rebel regions

    One policeman was killed and dozens injured Monday in street battles with protesters in Kiev as Ukrainian lawmakers gave their initial backing to controversial legislation granting more autonomy to pro-Kremlin rebel regions.

    It was the worst unrest in the capital since a bloody popular uprising ousted Moscow-backed Viktor Yanukovych early last year, an event that set in train the separatist insurgency in Ukraine's industrial east.

    Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk blamed ultra-nationalists for the violence but they denied involvement.

    "At a time when Russia and its bandits are seeking to destroy the country but are unable to do this on the front line, the so-called pro-Ukrainian political forces are trying to open a second front inside the country," he said in an address to the nation.

    The violence involving hundreds of demonstrators flared up shortly after MPs backed the first reading of constitutional reforms that critics have branded "un-Ukrainian" for giving the Moscow-backed insurgents greater powers in the east.

    Riot police armed with batons were seen clashing with the protesters.

    A loud blast was heard outside parliament and clouds of black smoke billowed into the air as demonstrators threw what security forces said were live grenades.

    Some of the injured were seen bleeding on the ground in front of the parliament building, with many suffering injuries to their arms and legs. Most of those hurt were in uniform.

    The authorities said a member of the National Guard, believed to be a 24-year-old conscript, died of his injuries.

    Interior Minister Arsen Avakov initially said he died from a bullet wound to the heart but later corrected this, saying he was killed by shrapnel from a grenade.

    Avakov said a deputy interior minister was also hurt.

    Police said around 90 members of the security forces were injured, with spokeswoman Oksana Blyshchyk saying separately that 10 of them were in a critical condition.

    The city authorities said two journalists were also hurt.

    The interior ministry blamed the nationalist Svoboda party for the unrest, saying those detained included a member of its paramilitary unit accused of throwing the grenade.

    "More than 30 people have already been detained. More to come," Avakov said, adding that people who threw "several" explosive devices were wearing T-shirts with the Svoboda logo.

    Svoboda rejected the accusations, instead blaming the violence on the authorities who it said were the first to use force against the protesters.

    The party led by fiery nationalist Oleg Tiagnybok called the explosions a provocation designed to cast suspicion on "Ukrainian patriots".

    Authorities opened a criminal probe into the clashes.


    - 'Anti-Ukrainian war' -


    The authorities confiscated a F1 anti-personnel grenade, which Avakov noted was designed to cause maximum death and injury.

    "Investigation and punishment will be unavoidable," he said, calling the clashes an "anti-Ukrainian war".

    Tear gas was used by both sides, an AFP correspondent said.

    The Western-backed reforms aim to give greater autonomy to the separatist east as part of a February peace deal which called for Kiev to implement decentralisation by the year's end.

    A total of 265 lawmakers voted in favour of the draft legislation at a stormy session, which saw some MPs try to disrupt the vote, which they condemned as "anti-Ukrainian" and "pro-Vladimir Putin."

    Some shouted "Shame!"


    - Controversial legislation -


    The bill has sparked heated debate in Ukraine where opponents see it as an attempt to legalise de facto rebel control of part of the ex-Soviet country's territory.

    Kiev's Western allies see the reforms as a way of trying to end the armed conflict in the east that has claimed more than 6,800 lives over the past 16 months.

    The reform bill grants more powers to regional and local lawmakers including in the eastern areas currently under rebel control.

    But contrary to the expectations of separatists, it does not definitively hand the largely industrial eastern region the semi-autonomous status that the insurgents are seeking.

    The Russian-speaking regions -- dotted with war-shattered steel mills and coal mines that once fuelled Ukraine's economy -- want their special status spelt out in constitutional amendments that would be enormously difficult to overturn.

    Kiev and the West accuse Russia of backing the rebels militarily and in particular deploying its troops to the conflict zone, claims that the Kremlin has repeatedly denied.

    Russia on Friday dismissed the constitutional amendments on decentralising Ukraine as merely an "imitation" of compliance with the February deal.

    Ukraine last week accused Russia of sending huge numbers of reinforcements to aid separatists.

    On Saturday, French President Francois Hollande and Angela Merkel of Germany agreed with Putin to hold a new Ukraine summit in the coming weeks.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...cid=spartanntp


    Not sure how much of this is truth or "truthiness", as the libs say. It is obvious western propaganda, but it is at least "apparently" objective - whatever good that is.
    "America was never great"

    "Anyone who analyzes the state of affairs in the world will find that it is the imperialists and capitalists, who subject the world to the worst poverty, the worst backwardness, and they are simply the scourge of mankind." - Fidel

    "Privilege begets psychopathy" - blindpig

  18. #18
    Not sure how much of this is truth or "truthiness", as the libs say. It is obvious western propaganda, but it is at least "apparently" objective - whatever good that is.
    "Apparently", like their favorite tactic, 'false equivilancy'. Of course they don't mention that Porky has stated that he ain't gonna do nothing like that, that it doesn't matter. Guess Right Sector didn't get the memo, don't trust him, or got different marching orders.
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

  19. #19
    don't trust him, or got different marching orders.
    I pick 'both'. If Porko thinks he's the only western show in town he is a bigger fool than everyone thinks.
    "America was never great"

    "Anyone who analyzes the state of affairs in the world will find that it is the imperialists and capitalists, who subject the world to the worst poverty, the worst backwardness, and they are simply the scourge of mankind." - Fidel

    "Privilege begets psychopathy" - blindpig

  20. #20
    Svoboda party leaders summoned for questioning

    01.09.2015 | 18:37

    The leader of Svoboda party Oleh Tyahnybok, as well as other party leaders are summoned for questioning by the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine as part of investigation conducted by the Main Investigation Department of Ukrainian Interior Ministry regarding the clashes outside the building of the Verkhovna Rada on August 31, the ministry's press service reported.


    @radiosvoboda

    "As part of investigation of the criminal proceedings initiated regarding group violations of public order, mass disorder, causing harm to life and health of the police officers engaged in the performance of their duties, as well as illegal handling of weapons, about 30 people have been summoned today to appear at the Main Investigation Department of the Interior Ministry for questioning. Among them are Svoboda party leader Oleh Tyahnybok (Kyiv), Svoboda party member Yuriy Syrotyuk (Ternopil), head of Kharkiv regional party branch Ihor Shvayka, chairman of the social-nationalist movement "Social-National Assembly" Ihor Kryvoruchko (Kyiv region, Bila Tserkva city), Svoboda party activist Serhiy Boyko (Kyiv region, Brovary city), Svoboda party member Ihor Sabyi (Khmelnytskyi region, Kamianets-Podilskyi city)," according to the ministry's report.

    As UNIAN reported earlier, the clashes outside the Verkhovna Rada's building started after the Verkhovna Rada had voted to amend the Ukrainian Constitution, introducing decentralization provisions.

    Protesters disagreeing with the amendments started throwing bottles, smoke bombs and paving stones at law enforcement officers guarding the parliament's building. Also, a defensive grenade was thrown at them.

    One serviceman was killed and two others died in hospitals. More than 150 people received injuries of varying severity.

    The records have been entered into the Unified Register of Pre-trial Investigations under Article 348 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine (murder or attempted murder of a law enforcement officer while engaged in the performance of official duties), Part 3 of Article 345 (threat or violence against a law enforcement officer), Article 293 (group violations of public order), Part 2 of Article 294 (riots).

    According to data of law enforcement bodies, the riots were organized by the All-Ukrainian union Svoboda, the Radical Party and other organizations.
    Read more on UNIAN: http://www.unian.info/politics/11176...estioning.html

    http://www.unian.info/politics/11176...estioning.html
    "We say to the workers: 'You will have to go through fifteen, twenty, fifty years of civil wars and international wars, not only in order to change existing conditions, but also in order to change yourselves and fit yourselves for the exercise of political power."'

    MARX (On the Communist Trial at Cologne, 1851).

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