• What an Asshole #10 - The Dalai Lama


    Dalai's reincarnation will not be found under Chinese control

    Indian Express
    July 6, 1999

    HALA: The Dalai Lama, who turns 64 today, says if his successor is chosen in the traditional way, then his reincarnation would not appear in Tibet or areas under Chinese control. "Should people prefer the old system of choosing a reincarnation -- then Dalai Lama's reincarnation will appear in a free country, and not in Chinese hand as the purpose of a reincarnation is to carry the work started by the previous life and yet not fulfilled," reports PTI.
    Pretty good reincarnation control, no? Perhaps the next Dalai Lama will pop up here:
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    Dalai Lama meets Idaho's religious leaders
    By Gary Stivers
    SunValleyonline.com
    Thursday, September 15, 2005

    http://www.sunvalleyonline.com/news/art ... ticle=1146

    The 14th Dalai Lama met with Idaho's religious leaders Wednesday morning at the Beaver Springs home of his local sponsor, Kiril Sokoloff.

    The event drew more than 100 spiritual and religious ministers from around the state representing a spectrum of faiths including Muslim, Hindu, Native American, Christian, Buddhist and others.

    The talk was billed as a means of bridging the gaps that divide religious groups and the Dalai Lama gave several views on such remedies.

    "Once we believe in a spiritual or religious system, we should be sincere and serious," the Dalai Lama began. "Once in Jerusalem, at an interfaith meeting, I heard a Jewish teacher in a classroom say when we face unhappy circumstances like those in Israel and the Palestinians, we should remember the other person is also the image of God. After learning that, they really get a lot of benefit when they face a problem. When we experience others, it's then easier that way."

    Such practical wisdom came repeatedly from the key leader of the Buddhist world.
    When minister and Blaine County Schools Trustee Kim Nilson asked the Dalai Lama how compassion could help until freedom and personal liberty comes throughout world, he responded, "I think mischievous people are always there. I think when -I'm Buddhist- in Buddha's time there were also mischievous people there. When Jesus Christ and Mohammed, these great masters, you see, were alive, still there were the mischievous even within their own community, ha, ha, ha."
    Sitting on the Dalai Lama's right as a moderator was author Karen Armstrong, a British writer and lecturer on comparative religions in the modern world. Armstrong asked the Dalai Lama whether living a religious or spiritual life is as hard a line of work as, say, running a business.

    The Dalai Lama responded in his native Tibetan, which the translator interpreted.

    "Basic affection we get by birth. However, often in life, we reach a stage where we tend to forget it. When we reach that kind of stage, then we require effort to maintain. Particularly in the case of religious practice, you need more effort."
    Moderator Armstrong noted Muslims are still facing a very difficult time in the United States and asked whether the Dalai Lama had any further advice for them.

    "More patience," he advised. "They should not be discouraged. I think it's the right time to implement what Koran says, sincerely. Then, eventually, their neighbors will come to know, ah, these Muslims are pretty peaceful and very good citizens of the society."
    Then the Dalai Lama smiled.

    "Meantime, if some individual is going to attack, then defend yourself very carefully. Ha, ha, ha. You know, the practice of compassion is very essential. But if mad dog comes, then if you say compassion, compassion, I say that's foolish."

    The audience erupts in laughter.

    "The other day I mentioned on the hurricane, when waves reach several feet high, then you say, 'peace, peace, peace,' I think that's foolish. You have to run, I think."
    Shoshone-Bannock Nation tribal council member Leon Tyler said abortion and homosexuality did not exist before Europeans came to America and asked the Dalai Lama's position on those.

    "On same-sex, I think believer and non-believer, we have to make a distinction. To a believer, according to one's own teaching, you should follow. So the Buddhist tradition, man-to-man, woman-to-woman same sort of sex, that is considered sexual misconduct. So, it should be avoided.

    "Then, according the Christians or Muslims and their own tradition and teaching, they should not do so. Then, among nonbelievers, sometimes I heard those people, gay people, they face some kind of discrimination. I think that goes a little bit too far. I think nonbelievers, so far, so long as no harm is involved, then I think it's up to individual. So that's my view. But I feel closer relations are better. Ha ha ha.

    "So then, abortion. Abortion is basically a death, a killing."

    Through his interpreter, he added, "Again, similarly, just as in the case of homosexuality with relation to abortion, one needs to take into account the religious faith of the individuals involved. So, from a religion point of view, particularly the Buddhist context, abortion is an act of killing. It's very clearly stated in the precepts."

    The Dalai Lama continued.

    "Again, in a society, nonbelievers are also there. And now I think in both cases, the societies' legal question is a different issue. And that there are nonbelievers in the society, so of course on issue of legality, that's a matter for the particular country or nation."
    There is much more. It is OK to believe in god and not to. It is OK to emphasize the material and not to. It is OK for the same person to say that material reality exists and also that it is an illusion. Ha ha ha...

    The 14th Dalai Lama has been around since at least 1391. This is one wise guy.

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    Dalai Lama's Links to CIA Still Stir Debate

    Features By George Fetherling
    Straight, Vancouver, BC
    Publish Date: February 18, 2004

    http://www.straight.com/article/dalai-l ... r-debate?#

    Probably the first public revelation about CIA help in the flight itself came in 1961 with the publication of Tibet Is My Country: The Autobiography of Thubten Jigme Norbu, Brother of the Dalai Lama. But the phrasing in this as-told-to book, translated from Tibetan to English via German, was ambiguous. Many were left to argue whether the springing of the Dalai Lama was actually a CIA covert op or if, as the CIA claimed, its people became aware of the escape only when it was already under way--though by then they long had American operatives at work inside Tibet.

    In his 1995 The Very Best Men, Evan Thomas, Newsweek's expert on the intelligence community, described the Dalai Lama and a CIA operative "racing down the runway of a remote mountain strip, a step ahead of the blazing guns" of the Chinese army. But in Orphans of the Cold War (1999), John Kenneth Knaus, one of the CIA's point men in Tibet, said CIA help was limited to radio contact (as shown in Martin Scorsese's 1997 film Kundun). That version was echoed in The Dragon in the Land of Snows by Tsering Shakya (also 1999). Many arguments still turn on this point. What's become a lot less debatable is what the Dalai Lama and the CIA did next--together.

    In the early 1960s, the CIA moved from dropping its own agents into Tibet to training a brigade of 2,000 Tibetan exiles, using secret bases in the Colorado Rockies and elsewhere. The band was supposed to invade occupied Tibet from Nepal. The Dalai Lama admitted as much in his 1990 autobiography Freedom in Exile, which sold one million copies and was the first of his many lucrative bestsellers (two in the past two years alone).

    But apparently the guerrilla army never did more than engage in border skirmishing. As early as 1964, in fact, its effectiveness and efficiency were called into question by the CIA, which nevertheless stuck with the plan. Funds to pay this army were funnelled through the Dalai Lama and his organization, which received US$1.7 million a year, later reduced to $1.2 million. (Of this, the Dalai Lama himself was paid $186,000 a year. But no one has ever suggested that he pocketed it. The money was used to operate his exiled government's offices in Geneva and New York.) The last year in which the stipend was paid out was 1974. By then, of course, U.S. policy had changed to one of embracing China, not antagonizing it.

    Much of this information became public in 1997 in the far-right Chicago Tribune, of all places, confirming what Maoists had been charging for decades. In 1998 both the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times added further details, using newly declassified agency documents.

    Now the debate may be shifting. One former CIA agent named Ralph McGehee, admittedly a professional thorn in the side of his former employer, alleges that the CIA has been a prime funder of the Dalai Lama's media profile as a symbol of meditative peace and Buddhist mindfulness. But the North American image of a spiritually pure Tibet--the Shangri-la idea that's been building ever since Lost Horizon, the 1933 novel by James Hilton, who got the idea from photos in National Geographic--can also be viewed in other terms. It can be seen as a continuation of the Orientalism by which the western imagination has colonized and marginalized Asia and the Middle East for generations.


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    Ask him any questions you like, but not about the CIA. This fucker will astral project his ass over to your house... and steal your beers.
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