Obama wins respect from the military (at expense of gays)

[The Straight Story]

Obama wins respect from the military
By George E. Condon Jr. CongressDaily April 21, 2009

A crisp salute, a first lady's campaign, a generous budget and some familiar appointments have allowed President Obama to take great strides toward reassuring the group that was perhaps the most wary of his election -- the military.

While past and present military leaders aren't about to change their largely Republican leanings, they are willing to credit the president with some shrewd moves that allowed him to avoid the mistakes that made for such a hostile relationship between the military and the last non-veteran president -- and Democrat -- Bill Clinton.

Even though many former Clintonites are back in power with Obama, "they're not dumb enough to make the same mistakes," said retired Army Lt. Col. James J. Carafano, now a defense expert at the Heritage Foundation. "I think they are much more attuned to the challenges of civil-military relationships than Clinton was when he came in."

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One lesson from the Clinton veterans was not to fall into the trap that ensnared Clinton when he tackled the question of gays in the military right out of the box in 1993. In contrast, said Carafano, Obama "sent out pretty clear signals that that is not an issue that is going to be addressed right now, that that is something for down the road."

http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=42531&sid=60

Down the road is something I call election day.

We expect gay folks to die for this country while being silent about who they are?

I don't call that progress. We can do better.

[leftchick]

wouldn't that be gwb?

On your point I completely agree. Isn't it comforting to know that obama makes nice with repukes and trashes progressive values? Hope and change are campaign slogans.

:mad:

[LoneWolf]

I don't want to pander to the hate of those who fear anyone different from themselves, regardless of the difference.

[sweetheart]

The military has sucked the nation dry. If there were no standing military, nobody
would be invading the US any time soon. Its hardly like the standing empire
is of any value whatsoever to the average citizen. 50% of every tax dollar
gets flushed down in to the imperial maw - and that's just the obvious - its more
like 70% of every tax dollar to support the evil empire... fuck the empire.

The military is the welfare queen sucking the nation dry, and i've not a lick of
respect for it or those who are part of the sucking... suck suck suck.

And for what, the genocide and murder of people in asia who will be equally fucked
after the money runs out and the troops fuck off home. And then for the rest of
our lives, we'll have to kowtow to the great servicemen who sucked us all dry doing
us a big fucking favour by murdering asians for gravy.

I don't care whether gay people are in the armed forces or not, perhaps they
should count themselves lucky if they are excluded from the infamy of being the
worm that sucked freedom dry.

[LuPeRcALiO]

Holy cow that was good!

[sweetheart]

I figure i owe the military complex for decades of psychological torture with their
nuclear weapons and those fuckers have sucked down the life force of every person i've
known and loved for what? what exactly -... yea exactly my fucking point. What a
waste of sperm.

It just really gets up my behind to hear the whole worshipping of the servicemen who
worked on the welfare dime under clear situations of duress - and discounting the real
person who pays the fucking taxes for this crap to go on. And there the disconnect is
absolute and absurd - the complex exists to apologise its colonial existance and
continuance. Capitalism is merely another word for tribalism and
it will never collapse.

But really, i'm so fucking sick of a lifetime of licking the boots of welfare queen
military ex-service people who think that by sucking down a living like theives, that
they've suddenly become wealth creators or in any way capitalists. funnily.

Thank you. Don't get me s t a r t e d on this miltiary stuff or i'll start
swearing like a new yorker. :-) :hi: We lived to 2009 - who'd a thought!

[LuPeRcALiO]

and it corrupts and destroys everything it touches directly and everything within fallout distance indirectly and that's the whole world.

We all know how the global asbestos industry wagged the dog on 911 but it turns out that's just the end of the story. Before they even got to the WTC they had to save their bacon through a full-press propagand campaign, aided by the Hoover-Nixon era CIA of course, to keep their freaking poison mines open and pumping asbestos into every home, school, hospital, highway and workplace in the freaking world even after its carcinogenic effects had been studied and reported in asbestosis studies in the early fifties and mesothelioma studies in the late fifties.

So what did they do? Torch a packed elementary school in Chicago on December 1, 1958, incinerate 92 students and three nuns in a matter of minutes, maim hundreds of survivors physically and thousands mentally for life, and traumatize the rest of the world with a high-octane publicity campaign spreading the tale and keeping it on the front page for years.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2008-11/43609694.jpg

My god the depravity and totally murderous terra they sponsored, all so a few pals could keep making a buck by peddling a known carcinogen. It's absolutely insane.